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Anna B Experienced

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So if they own/control the media , how did labour get into power before social media ?

 

Because Labour after Michael Foot, wasn't Labour at all, It was transformed into 'Labour Light.' You couldn't get a credit card between them and the Tory party. Under Blair they played the game by the establishment rules and if you need any proof of that just look at the £millions Tony Blair has 'earned' since he stood down as leader. I would also suggest that politics has become more and more corrupt over the same period.

 

Jeremy Corbyn is a different matter altogether. He refuses to play the Establishment game. He has the interests of the electorate at heart rather than those of the banks and Corporations. He is not one of their 'club.' He is also as near to 'incorruptable' as a modern politician gets, and has little in the way of skeletons in his closett that can be used as leverage against him.

 

He can't be bought, and that makes him a threat. Boy, does it make him a threat. So they will do anything, by fair means or foul, to keep him out of office, and assassinating him in the media is a tried and tested way of doing it.

 

'He that controls the media has immense power, for he controls the minds of the masses'

 

People forget Jeremy Corbyn was 100% Persona non grata before the election. He subverted that by going direct to the people and doing his campaigning in person at rallies all over the country. He also got his message across by going online on sites like facebook, (which is why he is so popular with young people.) . Also when the election was called, election rules of engagement had to come into play, which meant he was entitled to equal airtime, and for the first time he could be seen speaking for himself unspun, rather than being falsely reported by others.

That is when the tide began to turn.

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I honestly don't know if the tories own /control the media . It comes across like an excuse for losing . now could you answer my question ?

 

wow, you are showing a huge lack of understanding Hackney, as Anna perfectly explained, there has not been a true Socialist Labour party for decades....

Did you fail to notice that Murdock actually threw his full backing behind Blair? and they became good friends, didnt that ever strike you as being odd?

How anyone can argue that the media doesnt massively influence the voting public and that it is mostly owned by the tories is bizzar

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Because Labour after Michael Foot, wasn't Labour at all, It was transformed into 'Labour Light.' You couldn't get a credit card between them and the Tory party. Under Blair they played the game by the establishment rules and if you need any proof of that just look at the £millions Tony Blair has 'earned' since he stood down as leader. I would also suggest that politics has become more and more corrupt over the same period.

 

Jeremy Corbyn is a different matter altogether. He refuses to play the Establishment game. He has the interests of the electorate at heart rather than those of the banks and Corporations. He is not one of their 'club.' He is also as near to 'incorruptable' as a modern politician gets, and has little in the way of skeletons in his closett that can be used as leverage against him.

 

He can't be bought, and that makes him a threat. Boy, does it make him a threat. So they will do anything, by fair means or foul, to keep him out of office, and assassinating him in the media is a tried and tested way of doing it.

 

'He that controls the media has immense power, for he controls the minds of the masses'

 

People forget Jeremy Corbyn was 100% Persona non grata before the election. He subverted that by going direct to the people and doing his campaigning in person at rallies all over the country. He also got his message across by going online on sites like facebook, (which is why he is so popular with young people.) . Also when the election was called, election rules of engagement had to come into play, which meant he was entitled to equal airtime, and for the first time he could be seen speaking for himself unspun, rather than being falsely reported by others.

That is when the tide began to turn.

 

Thanks for that Anna , a well put together post . It wont change my mind but shows what can be achieved by a bit of thought and avoiding name calling :thumbsup:

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"Tulip Siddiq asked by Channel 4 to help abducted barrister".

 

 

This should be a very big story, not sure if the BBC dare touch it?

 

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/watch-tulip-siddiq-asked-by-channel-4-to-help-abducted-barrister/

 

It just got a mention in PMQs and was shut down.

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"Tulip Siddiq asked by Channel 4 to help abducted barrister".

 

 

This should be a very big story, not sure if the BBC dare touch it?

 

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/watch-tulip-siddiq-asked-by-channel-4-to-help-abducted-barrister/

 

would it not be a sort of conflict of interests as she has family in the bangladeshi government?

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Thanks for that Anna , a well put together post . It wont change my mind but shows what can be achieved by a bit of thought and avoiding name calling :thumbsup:

 

Thanks Anne - but politics is a dirty game and democracy means they pander to the electorate and the lowest common denominator too. Trying to maintain an ideological direction is impossible without compromise, which isn't ideal for idealists. (To many ideals there!) Some parties don't even try and their motivation is only to remain in power. Where is the conservative direction in the current government?

 

You are unfair to the Blair government have you forgotten that he followed Thatcherism and they changed the game so much that Cameron didn't even dream about having an ideolgical stance.

 

Consider Corbyn, who I also think is a different matter all together - He was the chief rebel during his time on the back benches voting against his own party more than anyone else. He now has to obtain loyalty from the Labour Party (in Parliament if nowhere else).

He also was a Remainer and he was against the EEC as a rich nations club.

He is also a Republican which is a subject kept well on the back burner by all the Labour Party.

 

We have the luxury of independence. Politicians have to get down and dirty.

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