The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Anna B]

Will you give me some specifics about the antisemetism 'affair' and Corbyn's Brexit and EEA stance...

Quoting unsubstantiated sound bites from the MSM won't do.

Can you show me researched information please.

 

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The above comment is what I would have expected of a Sun reader.... and not an alleged intellectual.

The first thing we must do before having a discussion, is to find an actual video clip of him 'saying' what he thinks rather than taking the word of a compromised presstitute.

The insipid creep Martin Bashir being a prime example. I would not trust that man as far as I could push him.... A lesser man would have got up and walked out... as they have done previously

Here is part of what was actually said:

>>>Mr Corbyn told Channel 4 News he had used the word “friends” in a “collective way” at a meeting in parliament.

Does it mean I agree with Hamas and what it does? No.

Does it mean I agree with Hezbollah and what they do? No.

What it means is that I think to bring about a peace process, you have to talk to people with whom you may profoundly disagree. (speak to them with respect, and not confront them)

There is not going to be a peace process unless there are talks involving Israel, Hezbollah and Hamas and I think everyone knows that.

I spoke at a meeting about the Middle East crisis in parliament and there were people there from Hezbollah and I said 'I welcome our friends from Hezbollah to have a discussion and a debate', and I said I wanted Hamas to be part of that debate. I have met Hamas in Lebanon and I’ve met Hezbollah in this country and Lebanon.

The wider question is Hamas and Hezbollah are part of a wider peace process. Even the former head of Mossad says that there has to be talks involving Hamas.

I’ve also had discussions with people from the right in Israeli politics who have the same view possibly, that the state of Israel should extend from the river to the sea, as it is claimed people from the Palestinians.<<<

https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-corbyn-i-wanted-hamas-to-be-part-of-the-debate

Jeremy Corbyn makes me proud to be British.

 

Good post.

[alchresearch]

Will you give me some specifics about the antisemetism 'affair' and Corbyn's Brexit and EEA stance...

Quoting unsubstantiated sound bites from the MSM won't do.

Can you show me researched information please.

 

Here you go, dated 10th and 11th May and in Labour's friend The Guardian.

I'm sorry that you don't know how to Google or find your way around the Guardian website (tip - Google "The Guardian", click the link, click on UK POLITICS)

 

Labour backbenchers urge Jeremy Corbyn to back remaining in EEA

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/labour-backbenchers-urge-jeremy-corbyn-to-back-remaining-in-eea

 

 

Labour MPs back antisemitism measures rejected by Corbyn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-mps-back-antisemitism-measures-rejected-by-corbyn

 

And you can have these additional ones for free:

 

Labour accused of 'bulldozing' Lewisham members in byelection

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-accused-of-bulldozing-lewisham-members-in-byelection

 

Andy Burnham says Labour hounded Debbie Abrahams out

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/andy-burnham-says-labour-hounded-debbie-abrahams-out

 

Oh, and nice one at ignoring all the other points in my post. Or is that because you can't argue against them?

Edited May 11, 2018 by alchresearch

[melthebell]

Here you go, dated 10th and 11th May and in Labour's friend The Guardian.

I'm sorry that you don't know how to Google or find your way around the Guardian website (tip - Google "The Guardian", click the link, click on UK POLITICS)

 

Labour backbenchers urge Jeremy Corbyn to back remaining in EEA

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/labour-backbenchers-urge-jeremy-corbyn-to-back-remaining-in-eea

 

 

Labour MPs back antisemitism measures rejected by Corbyn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-mps-back-antisemitism-measures-rejected-by-corbyn

 

And you can have these additional ones for free:

 

Labour accused of 'bulldozing' Lewisham members in byelection

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-accused-of-bulldozing-lewisham-members-in-byelection

 

Andy Burnham says Labour hounded Debbie Abrahams out

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/andy-burnham-says-labour-hounded-debbie-abrahams-out

 

Oh, and nice one at ignoring all the other points in my post. Or is that because you can't argue against them?

 

but those are MSM links

 

lol

[Mister Gee]

Here you go, dated 10th and 11th May and in Labour's friend The Guardian.

I'm sorry that you don't know how to Google or find your way around the Guardian website (tip - Google "The Guardian", click the link, click on UK POLITICS)

 

Labour backbenchers urge Jeremy Corbyn to back remaining in EEA

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/labour-backbenchers-urge-jeremy-corbyn-to-back-remaining-in-eea

 

 

Labour MPs back antisemitism measures rejected by Corbyn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-mps-back-antisemitism-measures-rejected-by-corbyn

 

And you can have these additional ones for free:

 

Labour accused of 'bulldozing' Lewisham members in byelection

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/labour-accused-of-bulldozing-lewisham-members-in-byelection

 

Andy Burnham says Labour hounded Debbie Abrahams out

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/10/andy-burnham-says-labour-hounded-debbie-abrahams-out

 

Oh, and nice one at ignoring all the other points in my post. Or is that because you can't argue against them?

 

Are you posting from Conservative HQ?

[Obelix]

Will you give me some specifics about the antisemetism 'affair' and Corbyn's Brexit and EEA stance...

Quoting unsubstantiated sound bites from the MSM won't do.

Can you show me researched information please.

 

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The above comment is what I would have expected of a Sun reader.... and not an alleged intellectual..

 

Thing is- you would need to be an intellectual before you could spot one. The fact that you spot me as a Sun reader tells me volumes about how low you set your own sights and expectations.

 

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Good post.

 

Uncritically swallowing the Kool Aid again Anna?

 

Have a look at what was written, rather than just seeing the proud jezza bit on the end

[catpus]

nope, thats just what most lefties do, support the enemy of your enemies

 

 

Mel you really stop reading the Sun and research more...

 

I posted an actual video above. Take a look at it and see how the press skew everything Corbyn, on the orders of their .masters.'

 

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Thing is- you would need to be an intellectual before you could spot one. The fact that you spot me as a Sun reader tells me volumes about how low you set your own sights and expectations.

 

The thing is that I AM an intellectual, my qualifications and ability to have a proper discussion and research from every available source prove it.

 

I mistakenly believed from some of what you write, that you had some level of education... but it has become clear that you are indeed limited because you constantly quote unfounded soundbites and headlines from the British Brainwashing Corporation and the gutter presstitutes like the Sun and Martin Bashir.

Edited May 11, 2018 by catpus

[GhostRiders]

Mel you really stop reading the Sun and research more...

 

I posted an actual video above. Take a look at it and see how the press skew everything Corbyn, on the orders of their .masters.'

 

You do realise that even the study Anna posted, by far the best piece of evidence posted by ANY Corbyn supporter I have ever seen regarding his unfair treatment by the press (I'm sure I don't need to remind you that it's not comparative so is useless as evidence that he is unfairly treated proportionately to other politicians) shows that out of the 8 newspapers looked at there was only one that had nothing positive to say about Jeremy Corbyn at all.

 

You seem to have a very exaggerated view of the actual amount of negativity shown towards Corbyn by the media.

 

And before you start calling me a Sun reader (I'm not) I'm using as evidence the academic study that Anna posted who's very aim was to find out if Jeremy Corbyn attracted negative media attention.

 

The result clearly showed (and I agree) that Corbyn received over all negative press. It did not say, as you seem to be repeatedly pushing, that he does not receive ANY positive press at all.

 

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The thing is that I AM and intellectual

 

And the Ironic post of the day award goes to.....

 

Are you not very good with grammar or are you saying that you are God AND an intellectual? (Sorry, religious psychology and philosophy is MY area of expertise and that was too easy to resist. Don't get it? Research it. Shouldn't be too difficult you being an intellectual and all)

Edited May 11, 2018 by GhostRiders

[hackey lad]

What I find amusing is that certain posters , accuse other posters of being brainwashed by the mainstream media and then to prove their point they put up links from mainstream media

[melthebell]

Mel you really stop reading the Sun and research more...

Nope, i know from personal experience thankyou i dont need to read things, i have family that used to be full on lefties and supported alot of similar causes to jezza and co, i have first hand experience of going on demos etc back in the 80s and 90s and seeing first hand how the likes of militant and socialist worker etc behave and who they support. I also supported "some" of the causes but not being a leftie not all if most.

[Anna B]

Thing is- you would need to be an intellectual before you could spot one. The fact that you spot me as a Sun reader tells me volumes about how low you set your own sights and expectations.

 

---------- Post added 11-05-2018 at 13:37 ----------

 

 

Uncritically swallowing the Kool Aid again Anna?

 

Have a look at what was written, rather than just seeing the proud jezza bit on the end

 

Are you deliberately targeting me? Or am I not even allowed to have an opinion of another's post now?

 

For your information I have read all of catpus' post which is a verbatim account of JC's responses to questions put to him by channel 4, and should clear up any misunderstandings about JC's relationship with Hamas and Hezbollah.

 

It's is clearly more than you've done, as your sniping and ignorance knows no bounds. If you have any questions about the post I suggest you address them to catpus, otherwise it's starting to look a lot like personal harassment.