The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[alchresearch]

Ask Peter Bone what he thinks. Or Boris. Or Hammond. Or Anna Soubry. You’ll get wildly differing answers. Theresa May can’t control them either. They are riven from top to bottom. Sadly, they are also in control of our collective destiny

 

I think you can say the same for Labour. They certainly have their fare share of remainers and leavers in the party as well as their voters. That's why Corbyn has sat on the fence for so long.

 

Labour’s Brexit fudge may have worked once. But it can’t go on

The local election results show Britain is still divided by leave v remain. It’s time for Corbyn to come off the fence

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/04/labour-fudge-brexit-local-elections-leave-remain-corbyn

 

The difference with the Tories though is that if they disagree with their leader, they aren't hounded and abused by Momentum.

[Rhyno]

The difference with the Tories is that they are the Government. They also called the referendum in the first place, as a result of their huge divisions over Europe.

 

A Tory mess. Their’s to clear up.

 

Labour’s actions are irrelevant, the Tories have an absolute duty to get us out of this mess. It is time they stopped infighting

[melthebell]

The difference with the Tories is that they are the Government. They also called the referendum in the first place, as a result of their huge divisions over Europe.

 

A Tory mess. Their’s to clear up.

 

Labour’s actions are irrelevant, the Tories have an absolute duty to get us out of this mess. It is time they stopped infighting

theres been rumours of another election because of tory infighting, shouldnt labour get their ship in order just in case? or dont they want the responsibility of brexit?

[alchresearch]

dont they want the responsibility of brexit?

 

I wouldn't blame them if they wouldn't, its a poisoned chalice. I wonder if that's why May acted so poorly, to try and lose the election so that Labour had to deal with the mess of it all.

[melthebell]

I wouldn't blame them if they wouldn't, its a poisoned chalice. I wonder if that's why May acted so poorly, to try and lose the election so that Labour had to deal with the mess of it all.

indeed it is, its unwinnable, maybe they are doing so poorly just so they dont get elected on purpose?

The tories are in,let them deal with their mess

[blake]

sometimes there are elections where looking back on them a few years later, the party that won them, looking back, would have preferred it if they had lost, but nobody ever goes out to deliberately lose an election. Although May did give a brilliant impression of that last year.

[ENG601PM]

The difference with the Tories is that they are the Government. They also called the referendum in the first place, as a result of their huge divisions over Europe.

 

A Tory mess. Their’s to clear up.

 

Labour’s actions are irrelevant, the Tories have an absolute duty to get us out of this mess. It is time they stopped infighting

It's not party political outside the imagination of people who hate Tories. It was a Conservative manifesto pledge and they were expected to deliver and they did. It's hardly been a solution to internal differences of opinion now has it so please put paid that that fantasy.

 

Labour made the same manifesto pledge for an EU referendum and they renaged on it.

[alchresearch]

Audience get a good laugh when Labour's Anneliese Dodds says "Labour has been consistent" and not divided.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/audience-laughs-labour-mp-insists-12593155

 

Labour's divisions were recently highlighted in the selection for the Lewisham East constituency where the winning candidate has publicly supported the single market.

 

Owen Smith, who was the shadow Northern Ireland secretary, was sacked by Jeremy Corbyn after he spoke out in favour of the Single Market.

 

And 83 Labour Lords, including a member of the shadow cabinet, rebelled against the whip to back the single market.

 

While there are a number of outspoken backbenchers including Chuka Umunna who want to avert Brexit itself.

 

The official party policy is for the UK to be in a customs union with the UK rather than staying in the customs union and the single market.

 

But Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell's antipathy to the EU is long held and widely known.

 

And a bit more social media fun from the new nasty party:

 

Labour chairman's aide blasted over 'disgusting' call for Theresa May to have 'noose around her neck'

An aide to Labour chairman Ian Lavery has been condemned after saying Theresa May "would look better with a noose around her neck".

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/95435/labour-chairmans-aide-blasted-over-disgusting-call

 

Labour Lewisham East chair suspended over Thornberry Isis tweets

Ian McKenzie tweeted about shadow foreign secretary being beheaded by Islamic State

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/22/labour-lewisham-east-chair-suspended-emily-thornberry-tweets

Edited May 25, 2018 by alchresearch

[mort]

A large number of posts have been removed for a variety of reasons as have those quoting those posts and any that make no sense once the others have been removed.

 

If you persist in bickering and launching personal attacks I will suspend your accounts.

 

Post civilly and within forum rules or you will find your welcome here has abruptly terminated.

[Mister Gee]

Dennis Skinner rules!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oxKS81rBywc

Edited May 27, 2018 by Mister Gee