The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[WiseOwl182]

2 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Presumably the same proportion as voted for the Thatcher and Blair governments who signed those treaties.

 

That's how democracy works. You elect a government and they do stuff. If you don't like it you vote for a different lot next time round.

(Major, not Thatcher).

 

And after you've voted them out, you have to undo the "stuff" too, such as, say, voting to leave the EU.

[Top Cats Hat]

9 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

(Major, not Thatcher).

 

And after you've voted them out, you have to undo the "stuff" too, such as, say, voting to leave the EU.

My apologies, it was John Major.

 

Anyhow the point still stands. We elect governments and vote for them again if we are happy with what they are doing. We vote them out if we're not.

[OPEN BORDERS]

37 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

72.21% of eligible voters, voted of which the motion was carried by 51.89%.

 

I'd say that's a clear indication to leave. Would you care to explain your 'Default' conclusion & back it up with the maths? 

You are wasting your time my friend.

TCH is in total denial of the referendum result.

[WiseOwl182]

3 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

We vote them out if we're not.

And, as I said, we then vote in a referendum to tidy up what we didn't like. 

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As we already have a Brexit thread can we get back on topic (The Labour party) now please?

[ANGELFIRE1]

7 hours ago, banjodeano said:

Labour has asked the BBC for unseen footage of last week’s Question Time and demanded a correction during next week’s episode as a row over the show’s treatment of Diane Abbott deepened. 

The party has made a formal complaint to the broadcaster over what it called the “unacceptable” treatment of Ms Abbott, the shadow home secretary.

 

The Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP was interrupted twice as many times as the Conservative MP on the panel, justice minister Rory Stewart, according to Labour.

 

 

The show’s new host, Fiona Bruce, is also reported to have made a joke during the warm-up, part of which implied Ms Abbott had been given her shadow cabinet role because of her past relationship with Jeremy Corbyn. The BBC refused to confirm or deny the claim.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-question-time-fiona-bruce-bbc-video-footage-poll-labour-a8737161.html?fbclid=IwAR3JF3TvqoFhpE6FaREN94uiWZSl9EFNZFAwhKLbrvKirYe01QdCOATKfy8

Let's be honest banjodeano, she certainly does not get the MP gig  because of her superior brain power does she. What worries me are the Liebour voters who persist in returning her to Parliament election after election. The mind boggles.

 

Angel1.

[Top Cats Hat]

16 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

she certainly does not get the MP gig  because of her superior brain power does she.

Really? How do you think she would compare to you in brain power?

 

Not only was she one of the very few people from her area to get into Oxford to study History but she has an IQ  above 130 which puts her in the top 2.5% of the population and a candidate for Mensa.

 

Lets's be honest, most of the criticism of Dianne Abbott is nothing more than good old, old fashioned racism. 

[ANGELFIRE1]

2 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Really? How do you think she would compare to you in brain power?

 

Not only was she one of the very few people from her area to get into Oxford to study History but she has an IQ  above 130 which puts her in the top 2.5% of the population and a candidate for Mensa.

 

Lets's be honest, most of the criticism of Dianne Abbott is nothing more than good old, old fashioned racism. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Syo86gsHk

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWYIkhJdOZI

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5OLb1nEqxs

 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/704849/Diane-Abbott-politician-Labour-blunders

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/910155/Diane-Abbot-BBC-Question-Time-Labour-Party-Momentum-Jeremy-Corbyn-Chris-Williamson

 

I will not be drawn into the racism argument. But will say, just because you are of colour does not make you immune to criticism.

 

But her worst gaff in my opinion was her career long condemnation of Private schools, and her telling that she would never countenance such a thing, sec mod was the way to go. Until her crumb catcher got to the age and then, whoops off he went to private school.

 

Angel1.

 

[WiseOwl182]

20 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

 

 

Lets's be honest, most of the criticism of Dianne Abbott is nothing more than good old, old fashioned racism. 

 

Haha. Yeah. And all that criticism of Corbyn is down to racism too? It couldn't possibly be down to political illiteracy and incompetence?

[Top Cats Hat]

3 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

I will not be drawn into the racism argument. But will say, just because you are of colour does not make you immune to criticism.

I agree, but criticising her intelligence when she is clearly way more intelligent than either you or I when you wouldn't level the same criticism of a white Labour politician does arouse suspicions.