The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Robin-H]

50 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

But Chukka is not the leader of any political  party is he?   why should he have even been invited in the first place, he is not relevant

That's a facile argument. The independent group might not technically be a political party yet, but they have 11 MPs, which makes them the same size as the Lib Dems, and bigger than Plaid Cymru or the Greens. It wouldn't really be fair if they weren't allowed to take part just because they haven't formalised as a party yet. What happened to kinder, gentler politics? 

[ANGELFIRE1]

15 hours ago, banjodeano said:

what are you waffling on about? the members decide who gets elected, it has nothing to do with Momentum...

As a Labour acolyte I am surprised that you cannot see the power momentum wields within the Party. Trust me, when they dispose of Comerade Corbyn their oar will be well stuck in when selecting his replacement.

 

Angel1.

[Mister M]

29 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

and that is what i mean as well, referring to Muslims as letterboxs?  wow, imagine if that was corbyn

I agree that Boris Johnson is the closest thing we have to Trump. I can't imagine the furore on here if Corbyn suggested spending money on past child abuse cases is akin to 'spaffing it on the wall'.

[banjodeano]

18 minutes ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

As a Labour acolyte I am surprised that you cannot see the power momentum wields within the Party. Trust me, when they dispose of Comerade Corbyn their oar will be well stuck in when selecting his replacement.

 

Angel1.

go away and google the labour party membership numbers, then google momentum membership numbers, sit down with a cup of tea, perhaps a hobnob as well, then have a think about it and then come back

[Obelix]

What have the membership numebrs got to do with anything. As you well know it's the stuffing of the local party apparachiks with Momentum supporters that gives them their power.

 

Thing is, even with the total balls up May is making of everything, Labour will still lose the next GE.... which is incredibly and deeply worrying.

[banjodeano]

34 minutes ago, Obelix said:

What have the membership numebrs got to do with anything. As you well know it's the stuffing of the local party apparachiks with Momentum supporters that gives them their power.

 

Thing is, even with the total balls up May is making of everything, Labour will still lose the next GE.... which is incredibly and deeply worrying.

and there we have it..!!!! democracy at its finest, dont you like democracy?

1 hour ago, ANGELFIRE1 said:

As a Labour acolyte I am surprised that you cannot see the power momentum wields within the Party. Trust me, when they dispose of Comerade Corbyn their oar will be well stuck in when selecting his replacement.

 

Angel1.

please explain to me about this power that they have, what exactly do you mean? 

[Obelix]

Entryism isn't democracry as well you know.

 

Now lets move on before you embarrass yourself further.

[banjodeano]

1 minute ago, Obelix said:

Entryism isn't democracry as well you know.

 

Now lets move on before you embarrass yourself further.

Really? come on then, please explain what you are talking about?

i see it like this, if our side gets more people out to vote its democracy, if the other side dont get as many then its entryism? 

whether you want to label them momentum, left leaners or socialists, why should there vote not be counted, momentum are still labour party members, its just that now they have a voice, and unfortunately the losing side dont like it...democracy at its finest Obelix, 

[Top Cats Hat]

2 hours ago, bendix said:

This is the leader who has explained his past habits of meeting with Hammas, IRA and Hezbollah by saying it's important to engage with everyone, even if you don't agree with them. 

Again in the interests of rreducing the amount of fake news on this forum as well as being fair to Corbyn, he has never met with Hammas, the IRA or Hezbollah.

 

And before we waste anymore bandwidth on this, can people resist the temptation to post links to pictures and reports of Corbyn attending events with Palestinian leaders or members of Sinn Fein. This has been done to death.

[banjodeano]

6 minutes ago, Top Cats Hat said:

Again in the interests of rreducing the amount of fake news on this forum as well as being fair to Corbyn, he has never met with Hammas, the IRA or Hezbollah.

 

And before we waste anymore bandwidth on this, can people resist the temptation to post links to pictures and reports of Corbyn attending events with Palestinian leaders or members of Sinn Fein. This has been done to death.

and there you go again, spoiling a thread with facts.........