The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[Anna B]

5 minutes ago, convert said:

So Labour promise yet more 'free' stuff.

 

What a great idea. Corbyn can't control the free press, which is moving more and more online, so he decides to provide 'free' broadband.

 

Not even looking at the actual cost to the taxpayer, the monopoly it would create, the jobs that would be lost at Sky, Talk Talk, etc.

 

The Government would control the internet provision to most homes. Who's going to pay for it if Labour provide it for free.

 

How much censorship would their be over the state controlled internet?

 

Big brother really would be watching.

 

If nothing else convinces you to not vote Labour, this should.

 

Or on the other hand we can allow the 5 media tycoons like Rupert Murdoch, who own 80% of the media to feed us misinformation to their hearts content

[nightrider]

41 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Or on the other hand we can allow the 5 media tycoons like Rupert Murdoch, who own 80% of the media to feed us misinformation to their hearts content

But Murdoch can't censor what I see. The government could if they get control of the internet. This is a complete non-starter for many people. He may have just lost the election.

[alchresearch]

If you thought broadband provider call centre staff were bad, wait until they're civil servants!

 

Anyone got any positives to say about the HMRC or DVLA helplines?

[Robin-H]

1 hour ago, Anna B said:

Or on the other hand we can allow the 5 media tycoons like Rupert Murdoch, who own 80% of the media to feed us misinformation to their hearts content

That's not comparable at all. 

 

Nobody is forcing you to consume any of that media if you don't want to. If the government nationalise the internet then it would be the only way to receive it. They can then control what you see. 

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, nightrider said:

But Murdoch can't censor what I see. The government could if they get control of the internet. This is a complete non-starter for many people. He may have just lost the election.

Are you kidding...?

[Anna B]

12 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

That's not comparable at all. 

 

Nobody is forcing you to consume any of that media if you don't want to. If the government nationalise the internet then it would be the only way to receive it. They can then control what you see. 

Really... you probably consume that media every day without knowing it. It's very difficult to find out who's controlling what.

Also with privatised media it can be sold to the highest bidder. Do you want it controlled by the Chinese?  

 

Edited November 15, 2019 by Anna B

[Robin-H]

1 minute ago, Anna B said:

Really... you probably consume that media every day without knowing it. It's very difficult to find out who's controlling what.

Also with privatised media it can be sold to the highest bidder. Do you want it controlled by the Chinese?  

 

It's not that difficult - you post it on here often enough! 

 

And again, you're not making proper comparisons. For the sake of argument, let's say the Chinese Government bought Murdoch's News Corp (and the government didn't call in the investment on grounds that such influence by a foreign power on our media would weaken our security). There would be absolutely nothing to stop you from consuming other media, or someone from setting up a new newspaper. They still wouldn't control the BBC, or the Guardian, or many other significant ways that people get their media. 

 

[nightrider]

17 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Really... you probably consume that media every day without knowing it. It's very difficult to find out who's controlling what.

Also with privatised media it can be sold to the highest bidder. Do you want it controlled by the Chinese?  

 

Yes I consume the media every day - the key point being I can read from many different sources to unbias what they tell me. If we have one internet provider run by the government what do we do when they ban certain things and make usage of VPN (the way round usually) illegal?

Edited November 15, 2019 by nightrider

[geared]

They didn't even seem aware there was more than one company in this field, when pressed the response was basically:

 

"We'll just buy them as well"

 

WTF?

Edited November 15, 2019 by geared

[Robin-H]

39 minutes ago, geared said:

They didn't even seem aware there was more than one company in this field, when pressed the response was basically:

 

"We'll just buy them as well"

 

WTF?

Heaven help people who's pensions are invested in Sky, Virgin, Talk Talk etc etc...