The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[melthebell]

1 minute ago, carosio said:

Given Labour’s obscurantist brexit policy over the past 3 years, leavers didn’t have much choice. In addition, if the claim that there are now more remainers than leavers is true , then Labour should have gained their votes.

 

 

not really they wernt a remain party

[carosio]

1 minute ago, melthebell said:

not really they wernt a remain party

I wish they had told us before the election!

[melthebell]

2 minutes ago, carosio said:

I wish they had told us before the election!

pretty easy to see if you use your eyes and ears

Edited December 14, 2019 by melthebell

[BoroB]

10 minutes ago, melthebell said:

thats not what happened though, a mixture of brexit and media manipulation, i doubt anybody barely even looked at wha they were offering

Its clear from the news coverage over the last 48 hours that people did look at what Labour offered before making their decision.

 

In my opinion its insulting for people to suggest otherwise.

 

 

7 minutes ago, melthebell said:

pretty easy to see if you use your eyes and ears

But if people use their eyes and ears all they see and hear is 'media manipulation' according to you.

[Michael_W]

53 minutes ago, melthebell said:

its not blaming others we KNOW brextremists were going to boycott labour in their blind obsession, BUT looking at the lies in the media and social media speaks for itself, its for all to see

Constantly claiming  your political opponents are extremists or that people are stupid and have been sucked in by media propaganda does you no favours whatsoever, I could claim that very narrow minded leftist narrative strengthens the reason why many working class people won't vote Labour anymore, that people like you have equally been duped by the patronising Guardianista, the middle class socialists, many of whom seem to be as brainwashed and indoctrinated by extreme leftism as those they demonise on the working class right.

Corbyn and his momentum cronies are very cosy with their pals in the socialist worker movement, groups of whom demonstrate against and demonise everyone and everything they disagree with, their political viewpoints are as divisive and littered with as much if not more envy and hatred as those they claim to be against on the far right, and the vast majority of ordinary people  can see that !

The bad loser syndrome seems to have carried on, the entitled generation have the excuse of being young naive and not knowing any better but someone your age mel ..... really ? 

[melthebell]

1 minute ago, BoroB said:

Its clear from the news coverage over the last 48 hours that people did look at what Labour offered before making their decision.

 

In my opinion its insulting for people to suggest otherwise.

 

 

But if people use their eyes and ears all they see and hear is 'media manipulation' according to you.

what i saw and heard with my own ears and eyes...including from my team leader things like oh youre not voting for that IRA supporter, something lifted wholly out of the press and taken as an excuse far and above what they were offering, youre talking bobbar my friend

Just now, Michael_W said:

Constantly claiming  your political opponents are extremists or that people are stupid and have been sucked in by media propaganda does you no favours whatsoever, I could claim that very narrow minded leftist narrative strengthens the reason why many working class people won't vote Labour anymore, that people like you have equally been duped by the patronising Guardianista, the middle class socialists, many of whom seem to be as brainwashed and indoctrinated by extreme leftism as those they demonise on the working class right.

Corbyn and his momentum cronies are very cosy with their pals in the socialist worker movement, groups of whom demonstrate against and demonise everyone and everything they disagree with, their political viewpoints are as divisive and littered with as much if not more envy and hatred as those they claim to be against on the far right, and the vast majority of ordinary people  can see that !

The bad loser syndrome seems to have carried on, the entitled generation have the excuse of being young naive and not knowing any better but someone your age mel ..... really ? 

all that drivel means is some of us dont base our views on race, religion or dirty foriegners

[Michael_W]

2 minutes ago, melthebell said:

what i saw and heard with my own ears and eyes...including from my team leader things like oh youre not voting for that IRA supporter, something lifted wholly out of the press and taken as an excuse far and above what they were offering, youre talking bobbar my friend

all that drivel means is some of us dont base our views on race, religion or dirty foriegners

No but your political views are equally as divise as those that do, you and you cohorts in the Labour party have politicised those very issues as much as anyone in the last 20 years ...... oh BTW the word bobbar got dropped about 40 years ago !

[BoroB]

13 minutes ago, melthebell said:

what i saw and heard with my own ears and eyes...including from my team leader things like oh youre not voting for that IRA supporter, something lifted wholly out of the press and taken as an excuse far and above what they were offering, youre talking bobbar my friend

all that drivel means is some of us dont base our views on race, religion or dirty foriegners

Its good to know that you can see and hear things, interpret that how you want and apparently make an informed rational decision whereas other people who see and hear the same  things as you but make different decisions to yours are insulted and are talking bobbar.

 

That sums up the Labour party as it is now, if they don't agree with Labour, ignore them, insult them, patronise them, and moan, moan, moan.

[melthebell]

15 minutes ago, BoroB said:

Its good to know that you can see and hear things, interpret that how you want and apparently make an informed rational decision whereas other people who see and hear the same  things as you but make different decisions to yours are insulted and are talking bobbar.

 

That sums up the Labour party as it is now, if they don't agree with Labour, ignore them, insult them, patronise them, and moan, moan, moan.

i dont agree with labour, i voted labour, tactically, but i dont go for a party as a whole

[jaffa1]

2 hours ago, melthebell said:

thats not what happened though, a mixture of brexit and media manipulation, i doubt anybody barely even looked at wha they were offering

So what are you saying then? that Labour voters are gullible  and easily brain washed?