The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[sheffbag]

I've just been reading about the Momentum decision. Its democracy at its finest

 

do you want Long Bailey?  Yes/No

 

And thats it, no alternative, nothing to do with the chairman of momentum being involved in her campaign already at all. Just a single candidate nomination take it or leave it. 

[banjodeano]

43 minutes ago, lottiecass said:

Well do you think every bit of news confirming this is fake news?

Nothing has been confirmed by anyone, everyone just has their own opinion, including the media

21 minutes ago, sheffbag said:

I've just been reading about the Momentum decision. Its democracy at its finest

 

do you want Long Bailey?  Yes/No

 

And thats it, no alternative, nothing to do with the chairman of momentum being involved in her campaign already at all. Just a single candidate nomination take it or leave it. 

Momentum don't decide who gets elected, its the membership who decide

[convert]

36 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Nothing has been confirmed by anyone, everyone just has their own opinion, including the media

Momentum don't decide who gets elected, its the membership who decide

And all the Tories, who are joining again, to ensure that Labour remain in the political wilderness for at least the next 10 years.

[lottiecass]

49 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Nothing has been confirmed by anyone, everyone just has their own opinion, including the media

Momentum don't decide who gets elected, its the membership who decide

Would you like a gamble ? momentum will be backing her or not, I know who my money will be on. For £25 anyone can vote for her and no doubt that will happen.

[Fudbeer]

27 minutes ago, convert said:

And all the Tories, who are joining again, to ensure that Labour remain in the political wilderness for at least the next 10 years.

 

 

Agree.Long Bailey is an absolute gift to the Tories almost unelectable imo.

[banjodeano]

42 minutes ago, lottiecass said:

Would you like a gamble ? momentum will be backing her or not, I know who my money will be on. For £25 anyone can vote for her and no doubt that will happen.

Gamble on what? i dont have a clue what you are talking about, momentum dont decide who the leader of the labour party is, each member has a vote, whether they are also in momentum or not

[gamezone07]

2 hours ago, sheffbag said:

I've just been reading about the Momentum decision. Its democracy at its finest

 

do you want Long Bailey?  Yes/No

 

And thats it, no alternative, nothing to do with the chairman of momentum being involved in her campaign already at all. Just a single candidate nomination take it or leave it. 

went to some early Sheff Momentum meetings, they were great, soon changed as the usual suspects took over though some decent people in it, but not for me, national momentum is a disgrace with its gerrymandering, the stalinists would have recognised it all.

 

Long Bailey seems to be a lovely person, decent, very compassionate, convictions, great back story, but she just seems to be someone without a shadow, no charisma, sadly needed in todays politics, maybe she will yet surprise us

Nandy was good on Neil interview, apparently the political journos are saying she smashed it.  i am probably going to suprise myself and vote for Starmer, he is a QC and will be able to take on Johnson.

 

Edited January 16, 2020 by gamezone07

[gamezone07]

On 08/01/2020 at 20:34, craigmason said:

Looking at the 6 standing for the labour leadership

Keir starmer - pro brexit

Rebecca long daily or corbyn 2.0

Clive lewis 

Emily thornberry also known as lady nugee

Jess phillips  

Lisa nandy 

Out of these i would vote for lisa nandy

Nandy was absent, pregnant when LP's M.Ps abstained against Smiths brutal welfare bill, but says she would have voted against, Starmer abstained but now says he wants social security to be fair with dignity.

[banjodeano]

42 minutes ago, gamezone07 said:

went to some early Sheff Momentum meetings, they were great, soon changed as the usual suspects took over though some decent people in it, but not for me, national momentum is a disgrace with its gerrymandering, the stalinists would have recognised it all.

 

Long Bailey seems to be a lovely person, decent, very compassionate, convictions, great back story, but she just seems to be someone without a shadow, no charisma, sadly needed in todays politics, maybe she will yet surprise us

Nandy was good on Neil interview, apparently the political journos are saying she smashed it.  i am probably going to suprise myself and vote for Starmer, he is a QC and will be able to take on Johnson.

 

Gerrymandering? can you please expand on that?

[Longcol]

3 hours ago, banjodeano said:

Gerrymandering? can you please expand on that?

Come on - we know Momentum are the 24 hour party (meeting) people who know the rule book inside out and willl get anything overturned that doesn't suit them. And it's farcical that they used the old Stalinist / Trotskyist "election" method - ie this is the choice of Central Committee - you agree don't you.

 

Corbynism was a dead end and resulted in the worst election defeat for Labour in our lifetimes - "more of the same" just isn't an option - unless the aim is continued Tory rule.