The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[hobinfoot]

I admire people who stand by their party through thick and thin but sometimes it can be the wrong choice. If Labour elect another leader from the left it will be a gift to the Conservatives. 

[Pettytom]

2 hours ago, banjodeano said:

it belongs to the membership, and i am part of the said membership, which in turn means i have a voice within the party

 

You are one voice amongst many. Your’s is  one opinion in a spectrum of opinions. You should maybe reflect on that a little.

 

Anyway, you’ve inspired me to rejoin the party that I quit when Blair was war-mongering. Only so that I can vote for Kier, you understand.

 

 He’s the only one who can make labour electable. Thanks for the motivation 

[banjodeano]

11 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

You are one voice amongst many. Your’s is  one opinion in a spectrum of opinions. You should maybe reflect on that a little.

 

Anyway, you’ve inspired me to rejoin the party that I quit when Blair was war-mongering. Only so that I can vote for Kier, you understand.

 

 He’s the only one who can make labour electable. Thanks for the motivation 

hahaha, I always said i was an inspiration to others......

thats brilliant news, i'm glad you are joining, strength in numbers and all that...

Yeah, i am only one voice, but there are many voices like mine, lets see if Starmer gets elected shall we....

[Pettytom]

1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

hahaha, I always said i was an inspiration to others......

thats brilliant news, i'm glad you are joining, strength in numbers and all that...

Yeah, i am only one voice, but there are many voices like mine, lets see if Starmer gets elected shall we....

I’m not sure that he will, but I hope he does.

 

I was at University with Kier, he’s a good guy.

 

What I do know is that if he doesn’t get elected, Labour won’t either.

[banjodeano]

15 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

I’m not sure that he will, but I hope he does.

 

I was at University with Kier, he’s a good guy.

 

What I do know is that if he doesn’t get elected, Labour won’t either.

perhaps you may be right, but my heart tells me i should vote for someone with socialist principles,  i am not going to change what i believe in just so i can back a winner, if that was the case then the labour party should just adopt Tory principles and get elected at any price, not for me thanks

[Longcol]

44 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

perhaps you may be right, but my heart tells me i should vote for someone with socialist principles,  i am not going to change what i believe in just so i can back a winner, if that was the case then the labour party should just adopt Tory principles and get elected at any price, not for me thanks

No - it should present itself as a credible alternative government - not a pressure group seemingly only wanting to appeal to a small section of the political spectrum.

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The only way to get a socialist government elected is to hide socialism within liberalism.

  

[banjodeano]

9 minutes ago, Longcol said:

No - it should present itself as a credible alternative government - not a pressure group seemingly only wanting to appeal to a small section of the political spectrum.

In my opinion a socialist government is a credible opposition

[Longcol]

2 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

In my opinion a socialist government is a credible opposition

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A government governs, not opposes.

[banjodeano]

2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

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A government governs, not opposes.

yes, that would be why they are called the government, and the opposition opposes....thats cleared that up then, anything else to add?