The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[banjodeano]

4 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

I think you probably need to look up a definition of “entryism”.

 

 

I dont think i do....

[Longcol]

1 hour ago, banjodeano said:

erm, where have i made any inclination that i have a problem with that? i certainly have no problem at all with that, one man one vote, thats democracy at its finest, he is not my cup of tea, but if the members decide to choose him then thats up to the members,i would think it a crazy decision, but hey..

but were you not calling people entryist when they were from the left?????

Women get to vote as well - do get up to speed.

[banjodeano]

3 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Women get to vote as well - do get up to speed.

Go to the top of the class Col... thanks for that pearl of wisdom

[Pettytom]

4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

I dont think i do....

I guess you don’t.

 

If you don’t want to clarify your understanding of the concept. 
 

It might help though.

[banjodeano]

1 minute ago, Pettytom said:

I guess you don’t.

 

If you don’t want to clarify your understanding of the concept. 
 

It might help though.

Entryism (or entrism[2]) is a tactic in which the members of an organised group conspire to secretly join a larger organisation en masse, with the intention of changing the targeted organisation's policies or actions.[3]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Entryism

its not solely limited to persuasions of the left leaning....just saying

[Pettytom]

16 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Entryism (or entrism[2]) is a tactic in which the members of an organised group conspire to secretly join a larger organisation en masse, with the intention of changing the targeted organisation's policies or actions.[3]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Entryism

its not solely limited to persuasions of the left leaning....just saying

I didn’t say that it was.

 

It is, however, limited to organised groups infiltrating an organisation, with the intention of changing its ideology.

 

Just saying.

[banjodeano]

2 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

I didn’t say that it was.

 

It is, however, limited to organised groups infiltrating an organisation, with the intention of changing its ideology.

 

Just saying.

yeah yeah yeah....we know all that, the labour party is now a socialist party. it is no longer a centrist party, it is now a left leaning party (whether you like that or not)  as i said people like you who have now joined the labour party, could rightly be labelled as entryists as you are trying to infiltrate the party and take it in the direction opposite to which it currently is.....jeeez, its not that hard

[Pettytom]

7 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

as i said people like you who have now joined the labour party, could rightly be labelled as entryists as you are trying to infiltrate the party and take it in the direction opposite to which it currently is.....jeeez, its not that hard

But we can’t. Because we aren’t an organised group attempting to subvert the organisation.

 

There has been entryism though. And it hasn’t helped the party.

 

Things are usually only “not that hard”, if you don’t think about them thoroughly 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Pettytom

[banjodeano]

10 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

But we can’t. Because we aren’t an organised group attempting to subvert the organisation.

 

There has been entryism though. And it hasn’t helped the party.

But you are indeed.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_(organisation)

Progress is a political organisation associated with the British Labour Party, founded in 1996 to support the New Labour leadership of Tony Blair.

and it also states...........

Progress was founded in 1996[7] by Paul Richards, Liam Byrne and Derek Draper, the former aide to Peter Mandelson, as an organisation to maintain a dialogue with Labour's new leadership under Tony Blair. It has organised many events and conferences, and hosted several important speeches by senior party figures. Its annual conference has become a staple of the political calendar with many cabinet ministers and other leading politicians attending.

your move sir.......

 

it also goes on to say.....Criticism of Progress had concentrated on the generous funding that Progress had secured from external donors, 

Edited February 7, 2020 by banjodeano

[Pettytom]

43 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

But you are indeed.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_(organisation)

Progress is a political organisation associated with the British Labour Party, founded in 1996 to support the New Labour leadership of Tony Blair.

and it also states...........

Progress was founded in 1996[7] by Paul Richards, Liam Byrne and Derek Draper, the former aide to Peter Mandelson, as an organisation to maintain a dialogue with Labour's new leadership under Tony Blair. It has organised many events and conferences, and hosted several important speeches by senior party figures. Its annual conference has become a staple of the political calendar with many cabinet ministers and other leading politicians attending.

your move sir.......

 

it also goes on to say.....Criticism of Progress had concentrated on the generous funding that Progress had secured from external donors, 

But, I’m not a member of progress. So, I’m not an entryist. 
 

As far as I’m aware, they’ve never instituted an infiltration of the party either. Nothing like Momentum, or Millitant.