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[alchresearch]

I see Labour are again getting themselves into a right mess with their trans rights statements.

 

I know trans rights are important and I do support them (to a point), but shouldn't they be focusing on targeting the Tories rather than just getting embroiled in another issue?  Its Antisemitism 2.0 and they're causing huge divides yet again.

[Robin-H]

 

 

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of continuity Corbyn from the Jewish Labour movement. 

 

[banjodeano]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51505547

Labour leadership: Emily Thornberry eliminated from race...not as if she was actually in it though

[alchresearch]

Another car crash interview from Wrong Daily on Sunday, completely missing the point and concerns of women when it comes to self-ID.

 

Rebecca Long-Bailey says women's refuges must accept trans women and urges Labour members to 'stop having this debate'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/long-bailey-trans-women-refuges-law-a9337911.html

 

And this:

 

Rebecca Long-Bailey would offer Jeremy Corbyn a place in her shadow Cabinet

https://politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/109940/rebecca-long-bailey-would-offer

 

 

Kier Stamer is going to romp home at this rate.

 

 

 

 

[taxman]

12 minutes ago, alchresearch said:

Another car crash interview from Wrong Daily on Sunday, completely missing the point and concerns of women when it comes to self-ID.

 

Rebecca Long-Bailey says women's refuges must accept trans women and urges Labour members to 'stop having this debate'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/long-bailey-trans-women-refuges-law-a9337911.html

 

 

 

 

How come it's Labour who are tying themselves up in knots about this issue? The other parties don't seem to give a toss about it.

[tinfoilhat]

38 minutes ago, taxman said:

How come it's Labour who are tying themselves up in knots about this issue? The other parties don't seem to give a toss about it.

Because it's a minefield. And Labour for the last few years have chosen to stomp through as many as possible. 

[alchresearch]

1 hour ago, taxman said:

How come it's Labour who are tying themselves up in knots about this issue? The other parties don't seem to give a toss about it.

I don't know if its a minority vote chasing thing, or they're focusing on trying to be all things to all people because its easier than confronting the government.

 

I mean, why else would they propose this:
 

Labour should print free tabloid-style newspaper for commuters, says Richard Burgon

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/109837/labour-should-print-free-tabloid-style-newspaper

 

All I know is that RLB is doing absolutely nothing to get me back to the party.  

Edited February 17, 2020 by alchresearch

[max]

4 hours ago, alchresearch said:

I don't know if its a minority vote chasing thing, or they're focusing on trying to be all things to all people because its easier than confronting the government.

 

I mean, why else would they propose this:
 

Labour should print free tabloid-style newspaper for commuters, says Richard Burgon

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/109837/labour-should-print-free-tabloid-style-newspaper

 

All I know is that RLB is doing absolutely nothing to get me back to the party.  

Perhaps to counteract this right leaning newspaper:

 

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The Evening Standard is a local, free daily newspaper, published Monday to Friday in tabloid format in London. Since 2009 it has been owned by Russian businessman Alexander Lebedev. Wikipedia

Editor: George Osborne

Circulation: 826,064 (October 2019)

 

[ECCOnoob]

18 minutes ago, max said:

Perhaps to counteract this right leaning newspaper:

 

 

I think the important point is that nothing stopped the clearly left leaning Daily Mirror or Guardian from printing their own free commuter paper. They could have chosen to do so anytime they wanted.   

 

My concern is why a political party is suggesting taking responsibility for producing such a thing.  Where is the funding going to come from?  At best it will be membership fees at worst it would be tax payers.  Neither of which are an unacceptable situation. 

 

Add on the extremely murky area of legislation and regulation about a political party directly producing a distributed newspaper and you open up the doors to all sorts of problems.

 

Talk about missing the bigger picture.  No wonder they are doing so dire.  Is that really the most important issue they need to focus on right now.  It's bonkers. 

Edited February 17, 2020 by ECCOnoob

[alchresearch]

17 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

I think the important point is that nothing stopped the clearly left leaning Daily Mirror or Guardian from printing their own free commuter paper. They could have chosen to do so anytime they wanted.   

And if Labour's historical friends the Guardy and the Mirror have stopped being so supportive, perhaps Labour should be asking why, instead of burying their heads in the sand.

 

As you look back over the years you can see the gushing support for Corbyn in the Guardian has decreased as time has gone on.