Ukip. All discussion here please.

[Xt500]

Ha ha ha...has anyone seen what the Tories are saying about UKIP:

 

Ukip voters are 'grumpy old men' who 'have had a bit of a hard time in life' and blame 'foreigners' for everything, says Ken Clarke. (That'll be like the multimillionaire leader Nigel Farage, who has a hard time of it Ken )

 

Boris Johnson last night risked outraging Ukip supporters by describing would-be defectors as people who might inflict "barely credible" injuries on themselves by "vacuum cleaner abuse." He said: "If you do not handle your vacuum cleaner correctly, you may end up inhaling the hamster - the budgerigar through the bars of the cage.

 

"And I have read that there are some people - probably the type who are thinking of defecting to Ukip - who present themselves at A&E with barely credible injuries sustained through vacuum cleaner abuse."

 

Curiouser and curiouser.

 

If thats not funny enough wait till it gets closer to the election.Thats if farage isnt locked up on fairy tale charges like the BNP were in 2005.

[blake]

I seem to have hit a raw nerve.

 

 

Doom

 

Carswell will cruise the Clacton by-election but Reckless might not win Rochester.

 

Nigel Farage is not going to get into parliament next GE without a big fight. These Tories, are incumbents taking disguise and calling by elections out of vanity.

 

the voters do not like being called out to vote, too often.

[Stan Tamudo]

Carswell will cruise the Clacton by-election but Reckless might not win Rochester.

 

Nigel Farage is not going to get into parliament next GE without a big fight. These Tories, are incumbents taking disguise and calling by elections out of vanity.

 

the voters do not like being called out to vote, too often.

 

Thank goodness I live in the North, the loony right seem hellbent on having it out down South.

[blake]

the Kent seats are all interesting Carswell has the best one of them for UKIP. He wil take it.

 

but none of the other Kent seats are anything like as good ground for UKIP, Farage is realising by now that he can not be assured to be himself elected to parliament in any seat, he cares to stand in anywhere in the country. Unlike Carswell, he is not a Tory MP.

 

Alex Salmond (remember him?) could get to be made MP easy, but Farage is going to find it harder.

Edited October 1, 2014 by blake

[Stan Tamudo]

the Kent seats are all interesting Carswell has the best one of them for UKIP. He wil take it.

 

but none of the other Kent seats are anything like as good ground for UKIP, Farage is realising by now that he can not be assured to be himself elected to parliament in any seat, he cares to stand in anywhere in the country. Unlike Carswell, he is not a Tory MP.

 

Alex Salmond could get to be made MP easy, but Farage is going to find it harder.

 

You're loony right!

[blake]

Farage may very well regret if he does end up with egg all over his face at the count on election night in Thanet South next May, having just narrowly lost in a three way marginal by a few hundred votes, that he didn't stand in the Eastleigh by election last year.

 

because he would have won that, and UKIP would have already had an MP for the past 18 months. A real one. Not a Tory turncoat like Carswell will be.

 

THANET SOUTH, 2010 general election

 

Laura Sandys, Conservative 22,043 48.0%

 

Stephen Ladyman, Labour 14,426 31.4%

 

Peter Bucklitsch, Liberal Democrat 6,935 15.1%

 

Trevor Shonk, UK Independence Party 2,529 5.5%

 

he still hasn't announced that he will be standing there and I can understand why he's prevaricating. The crucial thing for Farage is what is going to happen to that sizable 15% Lib Dem minority vote. Obviously it will probably halve at least, but if most of it goes Labour, the Tory vote splits, and Labour's holds up, Farage is toast and it could be a Labour gain.

Edited October 1, 2014 by blake

[Doom]

More good news for UKIP:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29438653

 

Parties need to finance their campaigns.

 

Regards

 

Doom

[Stan Tamudo]

More good news for UKIP:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29438653

 

Parties need to finance their campaigns.

 

Regards

 

Doom

 

With a name like Aaron Banks he must be one of those people that Boris accused of having sex with a Vacuum Cleaner!

[Zamo]

Carswell will cruise the Clacton by-election but Reckless might not win Rochester.

 

Nigel Farage is not going to get into parliament next GE without a big fight. These Tories, are incumbents taking disguise and calling by elections out of vanity.

 

the voters do not like being called out to vote, too often.

 

I don't think the disguise is particularly cunning and your assessment sounds more like a preemptive excuse for continuing to ignore the issues (making people vote UKIP) should they win the by-election. According to a survey more than three quarters of people cannot name or recognise their local MP. When most people vote they simply put a cross next to the party they want to support. If UKIP win the by-election then it will be because people have supported UKIP.

 

It is also interesting that that same survey shows a lot less people planning to vote than usual. I think that helps a protest party like UKIP because people who are angry about things are more likely to turn out than those that are indifferent.

[LeMaquis]

If thats not funny enough wait till it gets closer to the election.Thats if farage isnt locked up on fairy tale charges like the BNP were in 2005.

 

Eh? The BNP were locked up on fairy tale charges? No they weren't.

 

---------- Post added 01-10-2014 at 08:18 ----------

 

More good news for UKIP:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29438653

 

Parties need to finance their campaigns.

 

Regards

 

Doom

 

All the publicity UKIP is getting at the moment is the support they're taking off the Tories. This will just establish them in the public's mind as a very right-wing party and limit their appeal. It will also split the right-wing vote.

Edited October 1, 2014 by LeMaquis