Ukip. All discussion here please.

[ivanava]

Vindication for UKIP:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10848609/EU-immigration-surges-by-43000-in-boost-to-Ukip.html

 

Wonder how many on here will apologise now after claiming it was just scaremongering?

 

None of them, nor will they tell you what level of immigration would change their views on it.

[chalga]

Vindication for UKIP:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10848609/EU-immigration-surges-by-43000-in-boost-to-Ukip.html

 

Wonder how many on here will apologise now after claiming it was just scaremongering?

 

Nowhere near the 29MILLION then,and no TIDAL WAVE.

 

The detailed ONS immigration figures also confirm that there was no surge of Romanians or Bulgarians joining the British workforce when the final labour market restrictions were lifted on them in January.

The official statisticians said the available evidence so far showed that the recent increase in employment of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain was the result of extra migration before the controls were lifted in January.

Edited May 22, 2014 by chalga

[alchresearch]

Here's the poster:

 

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2013/03/question-time-audience-member-slams-ukip-on-immigration-stats/

[ivanava]

Nowhere near the 29MILLION then,and no TIDAL WAVE.

 

The detailed ONS immigration figures also confirm that there was no surge of Romanians or Bulgarians joining the British workforce when the final labour market restrictions were lifted on them in January.

The official statisticians said the available evidence so far showed that the recent increase in employment of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain was the result of extra migration before the controls were lifted in January.

 

But clearly more than we can cope with, imagine walking down the street and finding yourself desperate for the loo, you see one in the distance and think to yourself, yes I can make it, but that happiness soon turns to sorrow when you are confronted by the 15 Romanians squatters that are living there.

 

 

Since border restrictions were lifted on January 1, thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians are believed to have entered the UK in search of work.

 

The Home Office has refused to confirm the exact number for the first month and said that official figures will be released later in the year.

 

But their arrival is already having an effect on communities, with hundreds renting mattresses in outbuildings from rogue landlords – so-called “beds-in-sheds” – for as little as £50 a week.

 

Those living and working near the toilet – which had been closed for 10 years – said they were unaware it was a makeshift shelter for more than a fortnight.

 

The squatters were discovered by a council officer who visited the block ahead of its auction on Thursday. Once their cover was blown, the men left and abandoned their possessions.

 

Inside, investigators found rolls of industrial cable and receipts for copper wire sold for cash. No passports were discovered but paperwork “suggested the men were from Romania”, a council source said.

[chalga]

But clearly more than we can cope with, imagine walking down the street and finding yourself desperate for the loo, you see one in the distance and think to yourself, yes I can make it, but that happiness soon turns to sorrow when you are confronted by the 15 Romanians squatters that are living there.

 

UKIP have been fearmongering about 29MILLION coming in a TIDAL WAVE from 1/1/2014............aided and abetted by the right wing media,politicians and activists,that is what everybody now knows.

The other argument went that they were putting a strain on housing,if they are in a toilet,they are clearly not putting a strain on housing.Mark Carney says that the reason the UK is suffering from a housing shortage is due to not building enough houses.Immigrants don't stop houses being built.

Edited May 22, 2014 by chalga

[ivanava]

UKIP have been fearmongering about 29MILLION coming in a TIDAL WAVE from 1/1/2014............aided and abetted by the right wing media,politicians and activists,that is what everybody now knows.

 

But everyone other than you knows that it means can come here and not will come here, and the fact that 29,000,000 people haven't come years doesn't change the fact that too many have come here.

 

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UKIP have been fearmongering about 29MILLION coming in a TIDAL WAVE from 1/1/2014............aided and abetted by the right wing media,politicians and activists,that is what everybody now knows.

The other argument went that they were putting a strain on housing,if they are in a toilet,they are clearly not putting a strain on housing.Mark Carney says that the reason the UK is suffering from a housing shortage is due to not building enough houses.Immigrants don't stop houses being built.

 

Mark Carny is an immigrant so he would say that, he also doesn't have a problem affording an house. Your argument would also mean that if 100,000,000 turn up tomorrow, they wouldn't be the cause of an housing shortage, it would be the fact we didn't build 100,000,000 houses ready for their arrival. Which is clearly nonsense, we simply cannot cope with the huge influx of migrants coming to the UK.

[alchresearch]

Some great reasons for voting UKIP:

 

http://www.theladbible.com/articles/people-explain-why-they-re-voting-ukip-on-twitter

 

My favourite:

 

because I'm pretty sure Nigel Farage is actually a Sasha Baron Cohen spoof character and I'd like to see this play out.

[chalga]

But everyone other than you knows that it means can come here and not will come here, and the fact that 29,000,000 people haven't come years doesn't change the fact that too many have come here.

 

As many as who wants to come have come,they have a perfect right to come under the freedom of movement law that is in force between EU countries,if you don't like it,leave the EU...........it really is that simple.

[Doom]

Here's the poster:

 

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2013/03/question-time-audience-member-slams-ukip-on-immigration-stats/

 

The poster is quite correct, the EU will allow 29 million Bulgarians/Romanians to come to this country, fortunately for us they won't all choose to make the journey, but there's nothing to stop them all coming.

 

The latest immigration figures are a slap in the face for the Conservatives, who set a target of 100,000, instead we find 200,000+ is the true figure.

 

Immigration is completely out of control and there's nothing the main parties can do about it, so much so that it looks like the Conservatives won't even bother putting a target in their next manifesto, because they know they have no control.

 

Regards

 

Doom

 

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As many as who wants to come have come,they have a perfect right to come under the freedom of movement law that is in force between EU countries,if you don't like it,leave the EU...........it really is that simple.

 

That's why we're voting UKIP.

 

Regards

 

Doom

[alchresearch]

This is a bit old but it shows how many thousands leave the UK for other countries:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/6958220.stm