Ukip. All discussion here please.

[chalga]

You keep ignoring the sensible answers and the very basic maths of the situation, immigration equals more people, more people means less space for the people already here, thats less space on the roads, in the schools, hospitals, ect. More people means more consumption, pollution, CO2, which contributes to climate change, it means less water for the people that are here, more expensive food because we need more imports, higher energy costs because we need to import more energy.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834108/Booming-economy-leads-congestion-slower-traffic-Motorway-traffic-levels-reach-time-high-number-white-van-man-miles-soars.html

 

Motorway traffic levels have reached an all-time high as the rise of ‘White Van Man’ delivering goods and services continues apace, according to the official Government figures.

 

 

There,Farages problem is solved now,The rise of White Van Man and the booming economy cause traffic jams,so all he needs to do is tell White Van Man to stay off the roads,and stop the UK economy booming.............problem solved.

Edited December 29, 2014 by chalga

[retep]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834108/Booming-economy-leads-congestion-slower-traffic-Motorway-traffic-levels-reach-time-high-number-white-van-man-miles-soars.html

 

Motorway traffic levels have reached an all-time high as the rise of ‘White Van Man’ delivering goods and services continues apace, according to the official Government figures.

 

 

There,Farages problem is solved now,The rise of White Van Man and the booming economy cause traffic jams,so all he needs to do is tell White Van Man to stay off the roads,and stop the UK economy booming.............problem solved.

 

So you admit more people=more traffic, it's a start I suppose.

[Ellco]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834108/Booming-economy-leads-congestion-slower-traffic-Motorway-traffic-levels-reach-time-high-number-white-van-man-miles-soars.html

 

Motorway traffic levels have reached an all-time high as the rise of ‘White Van Man’ delivering goods and services continues apace, according to the official Government figures.

 

 

There,Farages problem is solved now,The rise of White Van Man and the booming economy cause traffic jams,so all he needs to do is tell White Van Man to stay off the roads,and stop the UK economy booming.............problem solved.

 

You've kind of proved our point there... more customers = more people..

 

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So you admit more people=more traffic, it's a start I suppose.

 

It may take a while... the seeds have begun to germinate

[andyofborg]

Petulant, like a child, coming up with silly scenarios to deny an undeniable truth.. the roads can't cope with the amount of traffic because of the increase in population. Fact. Try driving on the M1 at 5.00pm...

 

it nothing to do with population.

 

the population today is pretty much what it was two weeks ago, today driving up and down the m1 was a pleasure, two weeks ago it was less of a pleasure

[Ellco]

it nothing to do with population.

 

the population today is pretty much what it was two weeks ago, today driving up and down the m1 was a pleasure, two weeks ago it was less of a pleasure

 

Therefore, in five years time if the population has increased by 2 million the roads will have the same amount of traffic as today... oh.

[chalga]

You've kind of proved our point there... more customers = more people..:

 

I thought that immigrants didn't contribute anything to the UK economy,they just sent all their money out of the country............now they suddenly become 'customers'...............it just shows how goalposts change depending on which point some people are desperate to prove/blame about immigrants.

[retep]

it nothing to do with population.

 

the population today is pretty much what it was two weeks ago, today driving up and down the m1 was a pleasure, two weeks ago it was less of a pleasure

 

Could it be anything to do with the Christmas break?

[Ellco]

I thought that immigrants didn't contribute anything to the UK economy,they just sent all their money out of the country............now they suddenly become 'customers'...............it just shows how goalposts change depending on which point some people are desperate to prove/blame about immigrants.

 

You lost the congestion point so moved onto the next..

 

Could it be anything to do with the Christmas break?

 

Oh, well I never..

[anfisa]

I reckon he's perfectly aware of that, but won't admit it, so I'd give up

 

I think you might be right.

 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834108/Booming-economy-leads-congestion-slower-traffic-Motorway-traffic-levels-reach-time-high-number-white-van-man-miles-soars.html

 

Motorway traffic levels have reached an all-time high as the rise of ‘White Van Man’ delivering goods and services continues apace, according to the official Government figures.

 

 

There,Farages problem is solved now,The rise of White Van Man and the booming economy cause traffic jams,so all he needs to do is tell White Van Man to stay off the roads,and stop the UK economy booming.............problem solved.

 

And the rise in white van man is caused by, more people buying more stuff, fewer people would mean less stuff being moved around by whits van man, there is no escaping the fact that every problem you can think of is the result of population growth and UK population growth is significantly increased by immigration.

 

---------- Post added 29-12-2014 at 21:07 ----------

 

You've kind of proved our point there... more customers = more people..

 

---------- Post added 29-12-2014 at 20:14 ----------

 

 

It may take a while... the seeds have begun to germinate

 

Another couple of years and it might sink it.

[chalga]

 

And the rise in white van man is caused by, more people buying more stuff, fewer people would mean less stuff being moved around by whits van man, there is no escaping the fact that every problem you can think of is the result of population growth and UK population growth is significantly increased by immigration.

 

 

No,you conveniently missed out the point about the economy booming............how can that be a problem?..................oh,hang on,it's you isn't it...............a booming economy due to more people buying more stuff could only be a problem in your head.

 

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You lost the congestion point so moved onto the next..

 

 

 

 

Which of course,you have no answer too.