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Zamo - "two tricks"? Try searching for "Policies for People" and you may be surprised.

Also try listening to yesterday's broadcast by the BBC with Paul Nuttall - VERY clear on what UKIP propose for the NHS and NOT privatisation!

 

There are only two issues/policies where there is clear daylight between UKIP and the other parties. Their entire popular support is down to policy on immigration and EU membership and the other policies they have developed are distractions and hurdles for them to trip over... and keep tripping they do.

 

The reality is that UKIP is not going to establish itself as a political contender for government and they therefore need to resist the baiting from the other parties (and political commentators) to come and fight on political ground where they keep falling flat on their face. They do not need to win any more ground, just hold what they have and pick up some scraps as the other parties slaughter each other over the coming months and make us all hate the political establishment even more. Two-tricks is good... stick to what they know and keep what it has gained them.

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There are only two issues/policies where there is clear daylight between UKIP and the other parties. Their entire popular support is down to policy on immigration and EU membership and the other policies they have developed are distractions and hurdles for them to trip over... and keep tripping they do.

 

The reality is that UKIP is not going to establish itself as a political contender for government and they therefore need to resist the baiting from the other parties (and political commentators) to come and fight on political ground where they keep falling flat on their face. They do not need to win any more ground, just hold what they have and pick up some scraps as the other parties slaughter each other over the coming months and make us all hate the political establishment even more. Two-tricks is good... stick to what they know and keep what it has gained them.

Odd, then, that UKIP's mere emergence has at last changed the previous sterility of UK political debate!

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The more you do dirty tricks against an underdog the more you strengthen their position. All the other main party's are doing is showing them for what they really are.

dirty, lying con artists who will stoop to every public boy trick in the book. It makes the reasonable thinking of us wonder why they are so reluctant to allow a level playing field. Maybe its because the opposition actually talks more sense and genuinely wants what is right for the country, not for their own pockets and mates.

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Odd, then, that UKIP's mere emergence has at last changed the previous sterility of UK political debate!

 

It's changed the debate on immigration and the EU, but then so did the BNP. On the NHS, housing, transport, employment, environment, education, etc, UKIP has nothing to say.

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It's changed the debate on immigration and the EU, but then so did the bNP. On the NHS, housing, transport, employment, environment, education, etc, UKIP has nothing to say.

 

Around 13% of the population would seem to disagree. To be honest I haven't heard Miliband say much on those subjects either.

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It's changed the debate on immigration and the EU, but then so did the bNP. On the NHS, housing, transport, employment, environment, education, etc, UKIP has nothing to say.

 

And neither has the others .I havnt heard one of them mention the amount of private money being taken for operations pushing the people in need on the queues further down them,have you?

When the truth is told and it wont be,the NHS is already doomed and is pushing for more and more privately funded work.

One line headlines to fool the stupid is one thing but hiding the truth from the more intelligent is another.

it doesnt matter who gets in the NHS is history and not one of them will go any other path than the one its going down.

Of course UKIP is promising to do something about all the services in one swoop.The main problem with all the services is the growing numbers are forcing them to sink.As far as im aware UKIP are the only ones who want not only to reduce their numbers but have back the right to do it!

 

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And 87% would agree. UKIP supporters vote for their EU and immigration policies and little else.

 

i do like these numbers some like to pluck out of thin air.Nobody,and i mean nobody knows how this next election is going to turn out,yet there is always the ones on sheffield forum that think they do :)

 

Thr only thing for definate is there will be plenty more dirty tricks

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