I1L2T3 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Interesting discussions going on at Huffington post regarding south Thanet ballot boxes - apparently they went missing for 6 and a half hours, hence the very late declared result... Make of that what you will..?? Blimey. Any info on where the boxes went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Blimey. Any info on where the boxes went? Only the kippers are claiming that the boxes went missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Only the kippers are claiming that the boxes went missing. Call me old fashioned but that's kinda the way it works in situations like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 OR they dont have another "face" and would face the party going down the pan It's not necessary for UKIP to select another personality for the sake of satisfying people who don't like us and don't vote for us anyway, what the membership wants is what matters, and the majority of UKIP members will be very pleased the NEC has rejected his resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 It's not necessary for UKIP to select another personality for the sake of satisfying people who don't like us and don't vote for us anyway, what the membership wants is what matters, and the majority of UKIP members will be very pleased the NEC has rejected his resignation. If UKIP want to get any serious representation in Parliament, they need more than 10% of the vote. Having a leader who misleads the electorate isn't the way to build that vote. Just ask the Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 If UKIP want to get any serious representation in Parliament, they need more than 10% of the vote. Electoral reform towards PR would deliver vastly more MPs for UKIP, even at 10%. Making our Parliament more representative of voters will be an important issue in coming years, and isn't just an issue for UKIP, but would also benefit Greens and Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Electoral reform towards PR would deliver vastly more MPs for UKIP, even at 10%. Making our Parliament more representative of voters will be an important issue in coming years, and isn't just an issue for UKIP, but would also benefit Greens and Lib Dems. I don't disagree. And I think that UKIP have been badly served by FPP. But so have The Greens and Labour. How exactly do you think that we will move to PR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I don't disagree. And I think that UKIP have been badly served by FPP. But so have The Greens and Labour. How exactly do you think that we will move to PR? I think minority parties like UKIP, Green, LD need to put their political differences aside to make it an issue, but the public also need to make some noise about it. It will take a long time and Lib Dems must shoulder some responsibility after giving us the referendum on AV which was an inferior choice to proper PR in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I think minority parties like UKIP, Green, LD need to put their political differences aside to make it an issue, but the public also need to make some noise about it. It will take a long time and Lib Dems must shoulder some responsibility after giving us the referendum on AV which was an inferior choice to proper PR in my opinion. There is no chance of PR. The largest party in a FPP system will make sure of that. The AV referendum was truly awful, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Electoral reform towards PR would deliver vastly more MPs for UKIP, even at 10%. Making our Parliament more representative of voters will be an important issue in coming years, and isn't just an issue for UKIP, but would also benefit Greens and Lib Dems. I was banging this drum 5 years ago. In 2010 the Lib-Dems got 6.8 million votes, Labour got 8.6 million votes and the Tories got 10.7 million votes. This translated into 57 MPs for the Lib-Dems, 258 MPs for Labour and 306 for the Tories. Unfortunately, nobody seemed to be to bothered about it 5 years ago, and now some people can see that they might benefit from PR, all of a sudden it's a political necessity for UKIP. How long have UKIP been a party, and how long has this been a political necessity for them? Why has it taken them so long? ---------- Post added 11-05-2015 at 23:37 ---------- It will take a long time and Lib Dems must shoulder some responsibility after giving us the referendum on AV which was an inferior choice to proper PR in my opinion. The Lib-Dems tried and failed to get a referendum for PR, AV was compromise. It was AV or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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