Ukip. All discussion here please.

[Doom]

I think it's Lord Ashcroft who did the prediction,hundreds of media outlets carried the message.

 

You could have linked to a more serious publication.

 

Regarding Lord Ashcroft, he's a Conservative, so it's hardly a surprise that he's trying to scare disaffected Conservatives into returning to the party by suggesting a vote for UKIP will let Labour in.

 

If the Conservatives want to win back votes, the best thing they can do is listen to the message that the voters sent them on Sunday night.

 

Regards

 

Doom

[L00b]

Labour has backed itself into a policy corner that it can't get out of without it looking like a complete principle sell-out and potentially losing core support. This leaves Miliband searching for scraps he can throw at the disillusioned voters sitting in the UKIP camp and I can tell you now his scraps are not tempting! The Tories on the other hand have less of a journey to make to potentially satisfy the disillusioned voters sitting in the UKIP camp and they are not going to drive away core support by taking a fews steps closer to UKIP. The Tories are going to move closer to UKIP to win back the support it needs and I can't see how Labour can respond. Labour are in big trouble.

On the evidence of the voting factors and dynamic in France some years ago, entirely comparable on many levels (Sarkozy in Cameron's shoes, "heard" the massively-FN voting masses, UMP went righter, he then lost to Hollande, ensuing sell-out of leftist principles and procrastination, end result per last Sunday), you may be wrong. Labour may well win, and we'd get a few years of not a lot happening at all. Which, in real terms and at the global scale, means full steam reversing.

[Zamo]

The point I am making is that contrary to your opinion,that other parties would have to adopt UKIP style policies,Milliband has said.......NO............all he needs to do is to up his game,get the message across to as many of the 64% who didn't vote as possible to get them onside.If Milliband is indeed on course for an outright majority,there are not many scraps that he needs to pick up.

 

See you in a year to see who's right.

[Penistone999]

Ask Ashcroft,he's the one predicting it.............what i am saying is that it would make a balance of power redundant,and Milliband in his speech today also goes against reacting to UKIP and pandering to their message,also it goes against claims that UKIP gains will make other parties adopt UKIP policies..........milliband rejects that:

 

Miliband indicated that he was unlikely to adopt new immigration policies as he highlighted the policy changes he has introduced. They are: controls on people as they arrive and leave Britain; tackling the undercutting of wages; ensuring people working in public services speak English and ensuring people earn their entitlements.

 

For the last 10 years ive been predicting im going to win the lottery .......... dosnt mean its likely to happen.

[melthebell]

Tony Blair

 

right?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27585260

[taxman]

It only took five days… or amazingly it took five whole days, but Ukip has suspended one of its newly-elected councillors after the fledgling politician was allegedly caught tweeting about "perverts", "poofs and dykes" and "Pakis".

 

Never mind all you who support him, just carry on.

 

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Very debatable,

“Out of Africa” Theory Officially Debunked

http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/out-of-africa-theory-officially-debunked.html

 

Rubbish, you'll be telling us that the Chinese propaganda about a distinct Chinese descendant is true next.

[roosterboost]

It only took five days… or amazingly it took five whole days, but Ukip has suspended one of its newly-elected councillors after the fledgling politician was allegedly caught tweeting about "perverts", "poofs and dykes" and "Pakis".

 

Never mind all you who support him, just carry on.

 

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But isn't that the whole point. The folk who are turning to UKIP are the ones fed up with being told what they can and can't say by the PC brigade.

[Tommo68]

UKIP will never get into power in the UK. It's pretty obvious from the discrepancy between the local elections and the European elections.

 

 

You can't judge the outcome of one type of election by coparing it to another.

 

My grandad told me that what a working man needs is tory government a labour council and a communist shop steward. Not exactly a recipie for success overall and certainly not long term but for the working man back then he was right.

 

Thinking people will vote in each type of election for what they think will be either best for them or best for the country overall

 

Tactical voting to TRY to get the people you want with the ideas you like most doing the job you'd like them to would mean quite a lot of people not just voting for one party in every type of election to represent all their different needs.

 

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[Halibut]

Very debatable,

“Out of Africa” Theory Officially Debunked

http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/out-of-africa-theory-officially-debunked.html

 

The name of the website tells us everything we need to know.

 

Among the other gems on the site - former world banker reveals 'second species' controls earth http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/former-world-banker-says-second-species.html

 

and 'Evidence for ancient nuclear war on earth' http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/evidence-for-ancient-nuclear-war-on.html

 

Retep, your powers of judgement are shockingly underdeveloped.

Edited May 28, 2014 by Halibut

[ivanava]

Tony Blair

 

right?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27585260

 

Blair is very good at scaremongering, after all he got us into two wars.