Violence to girls and women.

[skinz]

MEN are the defining factor regarding violence towards women and girls.. it isn't race, colour, religion, or culture. Remove any or all of those aspects and you'll still get men from all walks of life abusing women and and young girls as well as boys, they get off on it. (and no, I didn't say all men)

[Mecky]

MEN are the defining factor regarding violence towards women and girls.. it isn't race, colour, religion, or culture. Remove any or all of those aspects and you'll still get men from all walks of life abusing women and and young girls as well as boys, they get off on it. (and no, I didn't say all men)

 

and women too

[daneha]

Seems like you have plucked that top 7 out of your own Islamophobic imagination.

 

Nope It came from here, http://www.photius.com/rankings/population/sex_ratio_total_population_2013_0.html

 

 

These figures include the migrant workers in the oil and construction industries who have flocked to those countries in recent decades, that's why they're so inflated. If you look at sex ratios between people born in Quatar they're about the same as everywhere else.

 

These are the figures for Quatar,

 

http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/qatar/qatar_people.html

 

0-14 years: 12.5% (male 129,465/female 125,623)

15-24 years: 13.9% (male 208,625/female 74,881)

25-54 years: 69.5% (male 1,170,547/female 248,369)

55-64 years: 3.3% (male 52,799/female 15,411)

65 years and over: 0.8% (male 10,214/female 6,510) (2013 est.)

[Baz1]

MEN are the defining factor regarding violence towards women and girls.. it isn't race, colour, religion, or culture. Remove any or all of those aspects and you'll still get men from all walks of life abusing women and and young girls as well as boys, they get off on it. (and no, I didn't say all men)

 

There are women who do abuse their partners and children- just may be less documented.

 

But in general, I think the violence against women escalates when countires are in turmoil and the laws are not strong enough to protect them. It is worse where war has broken out- the overiding factor always seems to be that women are targeted.

 

This article from the Independent is a demonstration of this type of thing- happening in what is a 95% Christian nation- but I would not go around declaring this is a 'Christian' problem- as some here tend to blame Muslim/Islam for all sorts of issues..mostly with no evidence linking to Islam itself.

 

The commander gives an order. "Go and rape women," he says. The soldiers obey.

 

"It's true that we raped here. We found women because they can't escape. You see her, you catch her, you take her away and you have your way with her," says one soldier later. "Sometimes you kill her. When you finish raping then you kill her child. When we rape, we feel free."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/exclusive-as-the-democratic-republic-of-congo-suffers-another-day-of-bloodshed-its-soldiers-talk-with-astonishing-candour-of-their-own-brutality-9506990.html

[longleyman]

 

 

which is absolutely meaningless because infanticide rising due to poverty and female infanticide due to hatred of females are two different things.

 

 

Killing new born baby girls in Pakistan is violence towards girls no matter what the reason.

[skinz]

and women too

 

Yes I know, that's why I used (and no, I didn't say all men)

 

There are women who do abuse their partners and children- just may be less documented.

 

But in general, I think the violence against women escalates when countires are in turmoil and the laws are not strong enough to protect them. It is worse where war has broken out- the overiding factor always seems to be that women are targeted.

 

This article from the Independent is a demonstration of this type of thing- happening in what is a 95% Christian nation- but I would not go around declaring this is a 'Christian' problem- as some here tend to blame Muslim/Islam for all sorts of issues..mostly with no evidence linking to Islam itself.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/exclusive-as-the-democratic-republic-of-congo-suffers-another-day-of-bloodshed-its-soldiers-talk-with-astonishing-candour-of-their-own-brutality-9506990.html

 

Again, as I said. What defines the violence are males. I did follow up with (and no, I didn't say all men)

In fact ALL crime overall is committed by males worldwide and crimes towards women by males are the norm, not the exception. To get to a woman's prison anywhere you'd probably trip over 10 male prisons to get to it, not to mention the prison being probably half the size. Would be interesting to learn how many women who are violently aggressive rather than passively aggressive had some form of violence inflicted upon them at an early age as a factor.

 

In the West we not only condone violence towards females we actually celebrate it as a sexual form of entertainment (porno) and call it freedom. Some may counter argue that violence towards men by women can be found within the genre but I'd bet that aspect is to feed the male need or fantasy, rather than a female one.

 

I agree that female violence towards men and children could be less well documented, but violence towards women could be equally poorly documented because many more women and children are afraid to come forward.

[daneha]

There are women who do abuse their partners and children- just may be less documented.

 

But in general, I think the violence against women escalates when countires are in turmoil and the laws are not strong enough to protect them. It is worse where war has broken out- the overiding factor always seems to be that women are targeted.

 

This article from the Independent is a demonstration of this type of thing- happening in what is a 95% Christian nation- but I would not go around declaring this is a 'Christian' problem- as some here tend to blame Muslim/Islam for all sorts of issues..mostly with no evidence linking to Islam itself.

 

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/exclusive-as-the-democratic-republic-of-congo-suffers-another-day-of-bloodshed-its-soldiers-talk-with-astonishing-candour-of-their-own-brutality-9506990.html

 

There is evidence which links Islam to violence against women, it is written in you holy texts and if we assume that the Quran is the word of God, then God must have intended men to be violent against women. So the Quran is either proof that God wants men to be violent against women, or it was written by men that want to justify their violence against women by claiming that it is the will of a non existent God, I would go with the latter.

[skinz]

There is evidence which links Islam to violence against women, it is written in you holy texts and if we assume that the Quran is the word of God, then God must have intended men to be violent against women. So the Quran is either proof that God wants men to be violent against women, or it was written by men that want to justify their violence against women by claiming that it is the will of a non existent God, I would go with the latter.

 

There's a lot of evidence linking violence towards women via religion, in fact there's a lot more evidence showing links outside of religion.

 

What we need is Ivanava for an unbiased appraisal.

[janie48]

There is a conference taking place in London for the next few days attended by Angelina Jolie, William Hague, and many foreign delegates discussing sexual violence on women in war conflicts.

Some of the victims have been speaking in the media about what happened to them, they want the world to know instead of it being hushed up as it was in the past.

Lets hope something good comes from this conference.

[flamingjimmy]

MEN are the defining factor regarding violence towards women and girls.. it isn't race, colour, religion, or culture. Remove any or all of those aspects and you'll still get men from all walks of life abusing women and and young girls as well as boys, they get off on it. (and no, I didn't say all men)

 

So just to be clear, you don't think that religion or culture has anything to do with the incidence of violence towards women?

 

For realsies? Is that your position?

 

Or is it just that you think its insignificant?

 

Also, how is 'men' a defining factor? You can't get rid of men, you can't change the ratio of men to women. All you can do is try to change men's attitudes which are.... shaped by their culture, upbringing, religious views, and personal traits.

 

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These are the figures for Quatar,

 

http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/qatar/qatar_people.html

 

0-14 years: 12.5% (male 129,465/female 125,623)

15-24 years: 13.9% (male 208,625/female 74,881)

25-54 years: 69.5% (male 1,170,547/female 248,369)

55-64 years: 3.3% (male 52,799/female 15,411)

65 years and over: 0.8% (male 10,214/female 6,510) (2013 est.)

 

Once again though you've failed to notice that these figures include the (mostly male) migrant worker populations of these oil rich nations.

 

They simply do not back up the point you are trying to make, not at all. Bounce is right on this one, you are wrong. Sorry.