Sheffield Town centre

[Se7enhills]

It is the kids without the fancy education that need thinking about in Sheffield there are to many **** you jack i'm alrights in this City.

 

fancy education?

like GCSEs maybe?

 

Its the Sheffield thing to admire failiure

[anywebsite]

We have jobs, every morning the inbound parkway is clogged up with thousands of employees coming in, we have a strong legal sector, engineering industry, software and internet sector, specialised steel products, a Universithy that is in the British and global top for research and one of the best ex-poly's in the country.

 

Keep talking about the eighties if it makes you happier, I for one think Sheffield is doing great and can only get better if we tackle the city centre properly.

 

Sheffield was in a desolate state in the 80s, the industry left before that & there wasn't any regeneration until the 90s. I think cuttsie is going back to the 60s or something, he must be going back 50 years, not sure his vision of the past ever existed, but I'm too young to remember & I'm 33.

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It is the kids without the fancy education that need thinking about in Sheffield there are to many **** you jack i'm alrights in this City.

 

That's not a Sheffield exclusive we've automated away many unskilled jobs. The question is what to do with them, they need to get the motivation to find the skills they need to get by. I work in IT and if you scratch the surface enough you'll find a great deal of people without 'fancy' education who have climbed their way up with a good combination of luck and hard work. We like to dress it up in fancy business language but once you cut through corporate bull**** it's an old fashioned trade. Young people just need to find their specialism, this has got lost in modern thinking people go through the education not really understanding what it's all for.

[Se7enhills]

My grandad retired from the River Don Works in 1973 and he was surprised that he had got that far.

The Steel Industry was on a downer from the early 60s not the evil Thatcher 80s

[hauxwell]

The sad thing about Sheffield is that it doesn't have a central hub. The Cathedral isn't quite it, and neither is the City Hall. The Town Hall and Peace Gardens might be our best central area but are fairly loosely linked in to Fargate, The Moor, the theatres and Barkers Pool.

 

Back in the 1980s the Moor traders committee wanted to get a roof over The Moor, but that soon foundered due to the number of shops owned by national chains and the complex ownership arrangements through leases and sub leases. Nobody took control after an outline concept plan was drawn up. Cue for Meadowhall to take fill advantage.

 

We can't blame the Germans for demolishing iconic Sheffield buildings because they actually destroyed relatively few. In truth Sheffield didn't have the hub of solid 19th century building developed in many other European cities. Over the subsequent decades we've allowed many older buildings that were built to fall into decay and dereliction.

 

Here are three that are still around. There are others. In most vibrant cities they would have been brought back to life years ago and linked in to sympathetic new trading areas, or used for housing or recreational purposes. It's probably not too late for these, and maybe one of the many plans will come to fruition - eventually;

 

The Old Town Hall, Waingate, a gem just rotting away; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591539/Inside-imposing-abandoned-Victorian-court-left-rot-two-decades.html

 

The old General Post Office in Fitzalan Square, still at the centre but of what? ; http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/new-life-for-sheffield-post-office-1-6071627

 

The NUM building - one that may need preserving as a historical reminder of how union power got totally out of hand; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-16249440

 

As for the area visitors can't avoid seeing when accessing our old Midland station - words can't describe the depressing derelict and decaying frontages in that area. And that's before starting on the car parking and taxi ranks.

 

We don't just need plans, we need drive to get it done - and money. We need well paid jobs to provide prosperity in the city (and remember Sheffield is a city) to support more shops and businesses, to fill up the properties, and provide greater affluence all round. Maybe we need to look to more thriving cities abroad to see how they've done it. What was the state of Singapore 60 years ago - and Hamburg and Berlin!

 

For starters we need a cross city underground tram and road system, taking most of the traffic off the streets. I could go on with dreams. Too many Sheffielders don't get to other international cities to see how far we've lagged behind.....

 

yes I agree with what you are saying. I always though the old Castle Market was the central hub in the 80's.

[cuttsie]

That's not a Sheffield exclusive we've automated away many unskilled jobs. The question is what to do with them, they need to get the motivation to find the skills they need to get by. I work in IT and if you scratch the surface enough you'll find a great deal of people without 'fancy' education who have climbed their way up with a good combination of luck and hard work. We like to dress it up in fancy business language but once you cut through corporate bull**** it's an old fashioned trade. Young people just need to find their specialism, this has got lost in modern thinking people go through the education not really understanding what it's all for.

 

A proper reply to a situation that effects us all.