discodown Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Most child abuse takes place in the victims home.Fair enough but thats separate to what I said which is why I got confused. I'm glad I asked you to explain it rather than just started ranting at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Most child abuse takes place in the victims home. How does that make it the fault of the parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 How does that make it the fault of the parents?I presume he's referring to parental abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 How does that make it the fault of the parents? It doesn't necessarily, but most child abuse is carried out by those closest to them, including but not exclusively parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bypassblade Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I know my views on this, I don't need one, even if It was 100/1 against my view. I know mine, but I was just making comment not a criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I know Bonzo mate, but sometimes they just hit the right buttons, and picking on my family does it straight away. Pete Nothing worse than those "if you do this, that or the other, then I feel sorry for your kids", messages. They always make me flip too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 yep, his words against the youth's. Everyone going through protracted interviews and court hearings. Father and child reliving the situation over and over again. The youths lawyer arguing that he had an unfortunate childhood & how society failed him. Maybe even that the father was neglectful for leaving him alone. A lawyers pantomime, with the better actor winning the day. Result - suspended sentence with a tag for 6 months, then back to same business as usual. You mean that justice system? Yes, the one where people are charged, tried by a jury and then sentenced. maybe, but I'm really not a tempered person or a fighter. I reckon you could hit me and I'd probably not retaliate.... but kids and rape, different matter. If you can't see that, I can convince you no more What are you trying to convince me off? It's you that claimed it wouldn't be actions as a result of temper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barleycorn Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I don't think he should have killed him for a second. I'm glad he didn't. I also think its naive to think that he wouldn't physically get involved in some way. I think the majority of people wouldAgreed ... but to claim the father was in some way wrong or shouldn't have done it Of course he was wrong to do it. We live a civilisation where violence is not supposed to not be the answer to crime. or that he was calculating or vindictive is to my mind just plain wrong and paints the abuser as the victim which seems the wrong way around Never claimed he was. Some people on this thread (and others like it) wished he had gone further and that the perp deserved everything he got (relished in it even), and more. In my mind if you think criminals should be beaten up, or killed, if caught in the act (or even hunted down revenge style) then you're also in favour of the torture and killing of criminals. That being the case they should really be either campaigning for a return of corporal and capital punishment and failing that, moving somewhere where revenge beatings and killings are the norm. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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