Anna Glypta Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Read my lips...the Israeli response is disproportionate as the majority of Hamas missiles are hurting noone because of their iron dome. If the response is disproportionate why hasn't it stopped the missiles being fired from Gaza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 That is completely irrelevent. Are Israel at fault for taking good care of their people? Should the Iron Dome be switched off and Israel allow their people to die so that they would be justified in retaliating? That would make them as bad as Hamas, so the answer is no. If you have a means of defence which renders an enemy's missiles ineffective it sounds like you've won game, set and match. Throwing back your own missiles at vague targets, where you've already killed dozens of children isn't really going to capture many independent hearts & minds is it, well not unless you're an imbecile. ---------- Post added 10-08-2014 at 11:02 ---------- If the response is disproportionate why hasn't it stopped the missiles being fired from Gaza? Perhaps because they're wiping out civilian targets rather than military ones..just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Of course it's relevant, it would in the eyes of the humanity world give Israel a lot of credo. It resisted when Iraq attacked with scuds (far more devastating), but then again that was on the orders of their paymasters. Israel didn't respond to the attacks from Scuds because the forces of Kuwait, United States, Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom, France, Egypt, Syria, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bangladesh, Germany, Italy, Australia, Netherlands, Niger, Sweden, Portugal, Argentina, Senegal, Spain, Bahrain, Belgium, Poland, South Korea, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Denmark, New Zealand, Hungary, Norway, Afghanistan, Philippines & Japan were pounding the crap out of Iraq in a display of overwhelming (no doubt you would say disproportionate) force and doing the job for then. ---------- Post added 10-08-2014 at 11:09 ---------- Perhaps because they're wiping out civilian targets rather than military ones..just a thought. Yes that does seem to be the aim of Hamas. Thanks for the thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intake Too Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Perhaps because they're wiping out civilian targets rather than military ones..just a thought. Thats hamas for you. Brutal, violent and racist Jew haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If you have a means of defence which renders an enemy's missiles ineffective it sounds like you've won game, set and match. Throwing back your own missiles at vague targets, where you've already killed dozens of children isn't really going to capture many independent hearts & minds is it, well not unless you're an imbecile Firing salvos of missiles at civilian targets where the country has the means to shoot down a large proportion of those missiles looks to be an act of total stupidity. Making excuses for those firing those missiles is the act of an imbecile. Similarly sitting back shooting the missiles down and not trying to stop them coming is a rather stupid idea too. What do you suggest Israel does keep shooting at missiles an burying the folk killed by the one's you missed? ---------- Post added 10-08-2014 at 11:16 ---------- Thats hamas for you. Brutal, violent and racist Jew haters. If Israel can shoot down most of the missiles fired at them it does seem like total idiocy on the part of Hamas to resume firing them when they had a cease fire in which their own population was not under attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I think Boyfriday and others here would love for israel to do nothing. In fact id bet some would like to see the iron dome dismantled allowing hamas to murder even more innocent Israeli civilians, They only have a problem when Israel fight back. Those uppity jews with their big noses and funny faces. Kill them, Kill them all The truth about Hamas. September 1, 2010: Two Israelis were wounded, one seriously, when Hamas terrorists ambushed their car as as the couple was driving near Kochav Hashachar. August 31, 2010: Four Israelis, including a pregnant woman, were murdered when terrorists ambushed their car as they were driving near Kiryat Arba in the West Bank. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, which coincided with the restarting of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. August 28, 2005: A suicide bombing outside the Central Bus Station in Beersheba severly injured two security guards who stopped the bomber from entering the bus station. January 13, 2005: Six Israelis were killed and five other civilians were wounded in a double suicide bombing at the Karni crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip. The two suicide bombers used a very large explosive device to blast through a defensive wall that separates the Israeli and Palestinian sides at the crossing. Following the blast, the bombers crossed into the Israeli side, carrying explosives on their bodies, which they detonated. August 28, 2004: Sixteen people, including a 3 year old, were killed and about 100 injured when two buses in Beersheba were attacked within minutes of each other by suicide bombers. June 28, 2004: A Kassam rocket fired by Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip struck near a nursery school in the northern Negev town of Sderot, killing an Israeli man and a 4-year old Israeli child. April 17, 2004: A border policeman was killed and three others wounded when a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up at the Erez Crossing in Gaza. March 14, 2004: Ten people were killed and 16 wounded in a double suicide bombing in the area of the Ashdod Port. Hamas and Fatah claimed responsibility for the attack. January 14, 2004: A female suicide bomber killed four people and wounded 20 at the Erez Crossing in the Gaza Strip. Hamas and the Fatah Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack. October 15, 2003: Three Americans were killed and one wounded at the Beit Hanoun junction in the Gaza Strip when a massive bomb demolished an armor-plated jeep in a convoy carrying U.S. diplomats and CIA personnel. Both the militant Islamic Jihad and Hamas movements denied responsibility for the attack. September 9, 2003: Hamas claimed responsibility for two suicide bombings, the first at an entrance to the Tzrifin army base near Rishon Lezion and the second at Café Hillel in the German colony neighborhood of Jerusalem, which killed a total of 15 people and wounded at least 80. August 19, 2003: Hamas and Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing of a bus in Jerusalem killing at least 18 people and wounding nearly 100. August 12, 2003: Suicide bombers killed two Israelis and wounded more than a dozen people in two attacks within a half hour of each other, one at a shopping mall in the Tel Aviv suburb of Rosh Ha'ayin and the other at the entrance of the West Bank town of Ariel. The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed responsibility for the Rosh Ha'ayin bombing and Hamas claimed to have carried out the Ariel attack. June 20, 2003: An Israeli motorist was shot dead and three of his passengers were wounded when their car was fired upon by Palestinian terrorists near Ofra, north of Ramallah. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. June 11, 2003: Sixteen people were killed and more than 80 wounded when a suicide bomber blew up a Jerusalem city bus during the afternoon rush hour. The bomber was disguised as an ultra-orthodox Jew. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. May 19, 2003: A Palestinian suicide bomber on a bicycle attacked an Israeli checkpoint on the Gaza Strip, wounding three Israeli soldiers. Hamas claimed responsibility. May 18, 2003: Seven people were killed and more than 20 wounded when a suicide bomber blew up a Jerusalem city bus at the start of the Israeli work week. The bomber was disguised as an ultra-orthodox Jew. Soon after, a suicide bomber carrying explosives and dressed in the garb of an ultra-orthodox Jew was stopped at a roadblock. The Palestinian detonated his explosives, killing only himself. Hamas claimed responsibility in both attacks. May 17, 2003: A pregnant Israeli woman and her husband were killed when a suicide bomber detonated himself next to them in a public square in Hebron. Hamas claimed responsibility. April 30, 2003: Three people were killed and dozens wounded in a suicide bombing at a beachfront pub in Tel Aviv. The Fatah Tanzim and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, carried out as a joint operation. March 7, 2003: Two Israelis were killed and five were wounded when armed terrorists infiltrated the community of Kiryat Arba and attacked during Shabbat. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. March 5, 2003: Sixteen people were killed and more than 30 wounded when a terrorist detonated a powerful bomb on a bus en route to Haifa University. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. January 5, 2003: Twenty two people were killed and about 120 wounded in a double suicide bombing near the old Central Bus Station in Tel Aviv. The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Islamic Jihad and Hamas all claimed responsibility for the attacks. November 21, 2002: Eleven people were killed and 47 injured when a Palestinian suicide bomber exploded on a bus filled with passengers, including schoolchildren, in the Kiryat Menahem neighborhood in Jerusalem. The bus was traveling toward the center of the city during the morning rush hour. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. October 27, 2002: Two Israeli police officers and a soldier were killed, and 20 bystanders were wounded in a suicide bombing at a gas station near the settlement of Ariel in the West Bank. The two officers and soldier were killed while trying to prevent the terrorist from detonating the bomb. Hamas and the Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack. September 19, 2002: Six people were killed and 60 wounded when a terrorist detonated a bomb on one of Tel Aviv's busiest streets, in a bus opposite the Great Synagogue. Many of the wounded were in critical or serious condition. Both Islamic Jihad and Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. August 4, 2002: Nine people were killed and about 50 wounded in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus at the Meron junction in northern Israel. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. July 3, 2002: Eight people were killed and 86 injured, 14 seriously, when a bomb went off at the Frank Sinatra Cafeteria on the Hebrew University Mt. Scopus campus during the busy lunchtime rush. Israeli authorities reported that the explosive device had been planted ahead of time, with the terrorist possibly detonating it by remote control. Five Americans were among the dead. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. June 18, 2002: Nineteen people were killed and more than 70 were injured, in a suicide bombing on a bus just outside of Jerusalem. The bus, which was completely destroyed, was traveling from Gilo to Jerusalem and had many students on board. In addition to the bus, at least two other vehicles were severely damaged in the attack. Hamas claimed responsibility. June 8, 2002: Three Israelis, including a pregnant woman, were killed, and five were injured when an armed terrorist inflitrated the community of Carmei Tzur, south of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsiblity for the attack. May 19, 2002: Three Israelis were killed and more than 50 injured in a suicide bombing at an open-air market in Netanya. A Palestinian disguised as an Israeli soldier carried out the attack. Both Hamas and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility. Two of the victims were identified as Yosef Haviv, 70 and Arkadi Wiselman, 40, both of Netanya. Wiselman, a chef at the Park Hotel, survived the Passover bombing on March 27. April 27, 2002: Three Palestinian gunmen disguised as Israeli Army soldiers cut through the perimeter fence of Adora, a settlement on the West Bank, and entered several homes, firing on residents in their bedrooms. Four people, including a 5-year-old girl, were killed in the attacks. Another seven were injured, including one seriously. Both Hamas and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility. March 31, 2002: Fourteen people were killed and more than 40 injured in a suicide bombing in Haifa, in the Matza gas station restaurant near a shopping mall. Several of the injured were in serious to critical condition. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. March 27, 2002: Twenty-two people were killed and 140 injured - 20 seriously - in a suicide bombing at the Park Hotel in the coastal city of Netanya, in the midst of the Passover holiday seder with 250 guests. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. March 19, 2002: 1st Lt. Tal Zemach, 20, of Kibbutz Hulda, was killed and three soldiers were injured when Palestinian terrorists opened fire at the paratroop training compound in the Jordan Valley. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. March 9, 2002: Eleven people were killed and 54 injured, 10 of them seriously, when a suicide bomber exploded at in a crowded cafe at the corner of Aza and Ben-Maimon streets in the Rehavia neighborhood in the center of Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. March 7, 2002: Aharon Krogliak of Beit El, Tal Kurtzweil of Bnei Brak, Asher Marcus of Jerusalem, Eran Pikar of Jerusalem, and Ariel Zana of Jerusalem, all aged 18, were killed and 23 people were injured, four seriously, when a Palestinian gunman penetrated a highschool that combines religious studies and military training in the Gush Katif settlement of Atzmona late Thursday night. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. March 5, 2002: Palestinians fired two Kassam II rockets at the city of Sderot shortly before 18:00 PM on Tuesday. One of the rockets hit a residential building, moderately wounding a 16-month-old infant. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. February 10, 2002: A drive-by terrorist shooting at the entrance to the IDF Southern Command base in Be'er Sheva killed two female soldiers and injured four others. One of the Palestinian terrorists was killed at the scene; the second, wearing an explosives belt, fled in the direction of a nearby school when he was shot and killed by a soldier and police officer. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. December 2, 2001: A suicide bombing on a No. 16 Egged bus in Haifa killed 15 people and injured about 40 people. Hamas claimed responsibility for the Haifa blast, while Hizbullah's radio and television stations expressed support for the attacks. December 1, 2001: A double suicide bombing at the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall in Jerusalem at 11:30 p.m. on a Saturday night killed 11 people, aged 12-21, and injured 188 people. A car bomb exploded 20 minutes later. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Israel didn't respond to the attacks from Scuds because the forces of Kuwait, United States, Saudi Arabia, United Kingdom, France, Egypt, Syria, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bangladesh, Germany, Italy, Australia, Netherlands, Niger, Sweden, Portugal, Argentina, Senegal, Spain, Bahrain, Belgium, Poland, South Korea, Czechoslovakia, Greece, Denmark, New Zealand, Hungary, Norway, Afghanistan, Philippines & Japan were pounding the crap out of Iraq in a display of overwhelming (no doubt you would say disproportionate) force and doing the job for then. We shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place. (remember Blair n Bush agenda, WMD's codswallop?) Considering all the countries you've just mustered together, then you follow with the term "disproportionate". Only an unintelligent ignorant backwoodsman would think any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intake Too Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 If Israel can shoot down most of the missiles fired at them it does seem like total idiocy on the part of Hamas to resume firing them when they had a cease fire in which their own population was not under attack. It makes perfect sense to me. Look at the reaction, hamas is free to fire missiles at Israel and the only time people get upset is when Israel fight back. Hamas know this, thats why they do it, thats why they use civilians as shields, thats why they boobytrap homes and other civilian buildings. Any time a palestinian is killed they point the finger at Israel and the stupid racist anti Semitic crew lap it up like its mums Sunday gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbob Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Read my lips...the Israeli response is disproportionate as the majority of Hamas missiles are hurting noone because of their iron dome. http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/rockets-hamas-gazaisraeliprmessaging.html Read my lipsA proportional response would have killed more people, careful targeting of terrorist weapons stores, terrorist tunnels, terrorist launch sites, terrorists and their leaders as resulted in fewer civilian casualties than one would expect from such a conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I am on about the 72 hr ceasefire which the cowards of hamas broke. I know they chose not to allow it to be extended because they are so keen on getting back to the killing of innocent gazan civilians. And yes, i DID read that link, it does seem however that YOU didnt!!!! Otherwise how else can you miss this bit Militants began firing missiles from Gaza shortly before the ceasefire ended at 08:00 local time (05:00 GMT). I know, it didnt suit YOUR idea of the "truth", still, dont let facts get in the way of a good rant will you This link says "rockets fired from gaza as ceasefire ends"= http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/08/gaza-enters-tense-phase-as-ceasefire-expires-with-no-deal-on-extension Israel is an ocupying force and the Palestinians are resisting as they are entitled to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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