mafya Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Oh yes they do, you for a start I support the gazan people in their struggle against the illegal occupation by Israel. I do not support Hamas. ---------- Post added 23-08-2014 at 12:31 ---------- You keep using the word taqiyya in the wrong context, [/quote To tell lies or to deceive non-believers ..or attempt to. Good enough for allah then ..... Taqiyya in Qur'anic Revelation The Qur'an itself is further testimony to taqiyya. Since God is believed to be the revealer of these verses, he is by default seen as the ultimate perpetrator of deceit—which is not surprising since he is described in the Qur'an as the best makar, that is, the best deceiver or schemer (e.g., 3:54, 8:30, 10:21). Typically you have tried to change the subject without actually responding to; .... (is that not deception too?) I am have difficulty in finding these same people speaking out against Hamas deliberately killing civilians in gaza ..who they also claim to be 'fighting' for. So by omission are you trying to imply that you are not prepared to condemn the murder of civilians in gaza by hamas? Is this because some of you actually condone these the murders? or Is it because some of you have other reasons not to condemn them? If you expect people to believe that I'd really consider changing whatever it is you have been drinking. . . . You believe that Muslims always deceive and lie to the non Muslims so why the hell should I bother explaining to you if you believe that? Supporting the Palestinians does not mean I or others support Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Shoes Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 And that appears to be in addition to the 30 suspected collaborators reported on July 27, 2014 to have been executed by Hamas. I noticed the word 'Suspected' I doubt they got a trial by jury though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Boy Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You believe that Muslims always deceive and lie to the non Muslims so why the hell should I bother explaining to you if you believe that? Supporting the Palestinians does not mean I or others support Hamas. I hate to break it to you but the palestinian people are Hamas and Hamas are the Palestinian people. Until this is accepted and dealt with there will simply be no peace in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbob Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I hate to break it to you but the palestinian people are Hamas and Hamas are the Palestinian people. Until this is accepted and dealt with there will simply be no peace in the region. And many of the people that have to run for cover every-time Hamas fire a rocket are Palestinian, those same Palestinian rockets kill more Palestinians than Israelis and the people most likley to suffer because of an boycott against Israel are Palestinians. Palestinians appear to be the own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 whoosh bang there's goes another one of my posts in the middle of the night no rhyme or reason just disapears in the middle of the night or whatever/ calling isis a bunch of nutters and letting them get any kind of power seems to have really offended someone:huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 And many of the people that have to run for cover every-time Hamas fire a rocket are Palestinian, those same Palestinian rockets kill more Palestinians than Israelis and the people most likley to suffer because of an boycott against Israel are Palestinians. Palestinians appear to be the own worst enemy. Gaza rockets hit the West Bank a week or two back too. ---------- Post added 23-08-2014 at 17:23 ---------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_tunnel_warfare_in_the_Gaza_Strip http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/07/31/if-liberal-elites-really-cared-about-gazan-children/ http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/At-least-160-children-died-digging-tunnels-for-Hamas-369138 http://www.wildolive.co.uk/Tunnels.htm 1 Hamas Tunnel needs 350 truckloads of building materials - (entering through Israel's alleged blockade) That is a cost of 3 million US Dollars So far the IDF has found 31 tunnels  (total cost 93 million US Dollars) With these materials the Hamas government could have built 86 homes 7 mosques 6 schools 19 medical clinics Who knows how many civilian bomb shelters? Plus the cost in terms of children killed during tunneling - 'At least 160 children died digging tunnels for Hamas' Use of child labor is not stopped by police in Gaza, where children's "nimble bodies" help dig the tunnels that lead into Israel and Egypt, according to a 2012 paper written for the Journal of Palestine Studies. The paper, titled Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege says that little had been done to stop the phenomenon of child labor during the digging of the tunnels by Hamas in Gaza. In December 2011, the paper's author Nicolas Pelham accompanied a police patrol in Gaza and reported that "nothing was done to impede the use of children in the tunnels, where, much as in Victorian coal mines, they are prized for their nimble bodies." Gaza will only move on from warfare when they choose to build those things instead of tunnels and rockets, and choose to love their own more than they hate the Jews of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozilla Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 "'Never again' must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE!" - Holocaust survivors slam #Israel on #Gaza https://twitter.com/astroehlein/status/503236540399906817/photo/1 ---------- Post added 23-08-2014 at 20:27 ---------- Protesters chanting against racism, the occupation, the war and the siege of Gaza. Central Tel Aviv right now https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/503243082448388096/photo/1 ---------- Post added 23-08-2014 at 20:30 ---------- Hundreds demonstrating right now in Tel Aviv against the massacre in Gaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbob Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Activists demonstrating again the Israeli offensive clash with Palestinian riot police in the city of Hebron. An incident on Monday, in which Hamas police officers killed two starving citizens and wounded tens of others, illustrates the level of intensity in the Gaza Strip these days. Hamas policemen hurried to the scene to suppress the violence. In an attempt to calm the situation down, the policemen too drew their weapons and directed them at the residents. In the ensuing moments, Hamas shot and killed two residents from Beit Hanoun and wounded dozens more. The incident follows another reported instance of Hamas violence against Gazans. The day before yesterday tens of residents in the Al Shifa hospital protested against the terrorist organization, with Hamas consequently extracting some of the protesters and executing them on the spot. GAZA CITY — Hamas has been shooting Palestinians to quell unrest in the Gaza Strip. Palestinian sources said Hamas has been killing Palestinians suspected of sparking protests amid the war with Israel. They said more than 50 people have been killed, most of them accused of spying for Israel. Ever wonder why so few Palestinians protest the actions of their leaders and the organizations that hold sway over their society? The answer is simple: fear. This was poignantly and horrifically demonstrated on Monday when a group of some 20 Palestinian residents of Gaza held an impromptu demonstration to protest the rocket attacks emanating from their territory that have resulted in a devastating Israeli military response. It didn’t take long before Gaza’s Hamas overlords became aware of the protest, and it took even less time before gunmen had rounded up and publicly executed the demonstrators for having the gall to exercise free speech. Edited August 23, 2014 by firemanbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Boy Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 "'Never again' must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE!" - Holocaust survivors slam #Israel on #Gaza https://twitter.com/astroehlein/status/503236540399906817/photo/1 ---------- Post added 23-08-2014 at 20:27 ---------- Protesters chanting against racism, the occupation, the war and the siege of Gaza. Central Tel Aviv right now https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/503243082448388096/photo/1 ---------- Post added 23-08-2014 at 20:30 ---------- Hundreds demonstrating right now in Tel Aviv against the massacre in Gaza My people will continue to defend themselves from the Palestinian/ Hamas aggressors. If you truly support the Palestinian people then you must urge them to stop their murderous assaults on innocent Israeli civilians. Only then is peace possible. Peace is the answer my brother. Not rockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemanbob Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 My people will continue to defend themselves from the Palestinian/ Hamas aggressors. If you truly support the Palestinian people then you must urge them to stop their murderous assaults on innocent Israeli civilians. Only then is peace possible. Peace is the answer my brother. Not rockets The problem for the people of Gaza is that they are shot by Hamas if they protest against the actions of Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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