flamingjimmy Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Do you think the following people were 'poor lost souls' and 'vulnerable/easily led'I doubt he does, but the people on that list are certainly not usual, and he was speaking generally, not absolutely, so you don't really have a point. I find it's usually poor lost soles who need some kind of guidance in their lives who turn to 'God ' .......... vulnerable people who are easily lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz1 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 There was a point and it was made quite clear If you or anyone can't see it then that's not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 There was a point and it was made quite clear If you or anyone can't see it then that's not my problem. Oh don't worry I know exactly what you were trying to say, you just didn't substantiate it. Also, treating it at face value, it's a meaningless argument from authority anyway, has no bearing on truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensmith Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 There was a point and it was made quite clear If you or anyone can't see it then that's not my problem. Some on here like to play with words, twisting what others have written, trying to make out they meant something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Do you think the following people were 'poor lost souls' and 'vulnerable/easily led': (to name a few).. Albert Einstein Max Planck Guglielmo Marconi Arthur Compton Abdus Salam Winston Churchill Jimmy Carter Theodore Roosevelt Nelson Mandela Isaac Newton Galileo Galilei Nicolaus Copernicus Johannes Kepler Francis Bacon Blaise Pascal They all believed in God and adhered to a faith. Think they did pretty well for lost souls.. don't you? It appears that Einstein wasn't really a christian, the others (apart from Salam) were raised in a strong Christian culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Some on here like to play with words, twisting what others have written, trying to make out they meant something else. So that's very similar to how the religious play with words and interpret what is written in the Bible to mean what they want it to mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensmith Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It appears that Einstein wasn't really a christian, the others (apart from Salam) were raised in a strong Christian culture. If you actually study him it says in his latter years he changed his opinion, he wrote a letter to that effect . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It appears that Einstein wasn't really a christian, the others (apart from Salam) were raised in a strong Christian culture. It could also be argued that Churchill was not a real Christian for allowing the firebombing of Germany. Truman not a real Christian for allowing the Atomic bomb to be dropped on Japan. Nelson Mandela not a real Christian for being a terrorist in an organisation that killed people. Isaac Newton not a real Christian as he was obsessed with the occult rather than religion. ---------- Post added 15-01-2016 at 22:14 ---------- If you actually study him it says in his latter years he changed his opinion, he wrote a letter to that effect . This a quote from that letter that he wrote in 1954 a year before he died.. "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." Richard Dawkins put in a bid at the auction of it but failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensmith Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It could also be argued that Churchill was not a real Christian for allowing the firebombing of Germany. Truman not a real Christian for allowing the Atomic bomb to be dropped on Japan. Nelson Mandela not a real Christian for being a terrorist in an organisation that killed people. Isaac Newton not a real Christian as he was obsessed with the occult rather than religion. ---------- Post added 15-01-2016 at 22:14 ---------- This a quote from that letter that he wrote in 1954 a year before he died.. "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." Richard Dawkins put in a bid at the auction of it but failed. It doesn't matter that he wrote it a year before his death, the fact is that he did write to the effect he did believe in and have a relationship with God . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It doesn't matter that he wrote it a year before his death, the fact is that he did write to the effect he did believe in and have a relationship with God . When I was a child I believed in Santa and the tooth fairy and now I'm grown up I dont. The simple fact is Einstein never said he had a relationship with God and wrote the opposite in his final years hoping to clear up some assumptions about what he believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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