flamingjimmy Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Jehovah , Yahweh are both names of God along with a few others , please have respect for this persons faith.I don't have respect for anyone's faith, I don't think faith is worthy of respect, to me it's a vice not a virtue. People deserve respect, ideas and organisations do not. Sinister cults even less. why do you think god never heals amputees? Why do you think he only ever heals people that might have gotten better anyway? I would really love the answer that god has sowed in your heart and not a link to what he sowed in someone else's heart. Edited May 9, 2015 by flamingjimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatrajah Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) well I don't know it doesn't sound like the kind of meetings i have attended but where theres good things happening people always dispute it and after all bad news sells more stories I don't think your reply in any way addresses the points raised on that website. It is clearly a scathing attack on Reinhard Bonnke & his modus operandi. They obviously think that Bonnke is the worst kind of charlatan & they state that he has never produced verifiable authenticated evidence for his healings. Until Bonnke & his ilk produce this standard of evidence, I, for one, will continue to think that it's all wishful thinking & self-deception. Edited May 9, 2015 by fatrajah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I don't think your reply in any way addresses the points raised on that website. It is clearly a scathing attack on Reinhard Bonnke & his modus operandi. They obviously think that Bonnke is the worst kind of charlatan & they state that he has never produced verifiable authenticated evidence for his healings. Until Bonnke & his ilk produce this standard of evidence, I, for one, will continue to think that it's all wishful thinking & self-deception. I have heard this guy speak a few times in meetings where healing have taken place , Maggie one of our workers was healed of fibroids ( in Zimbabwe ) Maggie had confirmed fibroids , we were saving for the operation to have a hysterectomy, She had been in pain daily she was prayed for by this man and was healed when they gave her another scan they couldn't find one fibroid ! She will tell you her faith has made her well. I don't see Reinhart Bonnke as a fraud I see him as carrying Gods healing anointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I have heard this guy speak a few times in meetings where healing have taken place , Maggie one of our workers was healed of fibroids ( in Zimbabwe ) Maggie had confirmed fibroids , we were saving for the operation to have a hysterectomy, She had been in pain daily she was prayed for by this man and was healed when they gave her another scan they couldn't find one fibroid ! She will tell you her faith has made her well. I don't see Reinhart Bonnke as a fraud I see him as carrying Gods healing anointing. Fibroids can and do often shrink and disappear completely naturally without any treatment. No miracle required. Why do you think god never heals amputees? Why do you think he only ever heals people that might have gotten better anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Fibroids can and do often shrink and disappear completely naturally without any treatment. No miracle required. Why do you think god never heals amputees? Why do you think he only ever heals people that might have gotten better anyway? Not at this size , TC lee Here at Sheffield Jessops hospital says large fibroids rarely go on there own , I asked him for a second opinion as we didn't want Maggie to have a full hysterectomy as she still wanted to have a child of her own . Maggie in TC Lees opinion was she needed an emergency operation As for your question watch the video ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Not at this size , TC lee Here at Sheffield Jessops hospital says large fibroids rarely go on there own And the GP in my immediate family I asked says they can and do sometimes go on their own. So... something that rarely happens happened, and you say miracle. I think that's a pretty weak example. How come god never heals people that had absolutely no chance of getting better on their own? Like people with no arms or no eyes or something? It seems a bit unfair that he only ever heals people who might have gotten better on their own, lazy even. I don't believe watching a video made by someone else will help me find out what you think, which is what I'm asking. Edited May 10, 2015 by flamingjimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Not at this size , TC lee Here at Sheffield Jessops hospital says large fibroids rarely go on there own , I asked him for a second opinion as we didn't want Maggie to have a full hysterectomy as she still wanted to have a child of her own . Maggie in TC Lees opinion was she needed an emergency operation As for your question watch the video ! So there must be a paper written as a result of this miracle. The author could be in for a Nobel Prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 And the GP in my immediate family I asked says they can and do sometimes go on their own. So... something that rarely happens happened, and you say miracle. I think that's a pretty weak example. How come god never heals people that had absolutely no chance of getting better on their own? Like people with no arms or no eyes or something? It seems a bit unfair that he only ever heals people who might have gotten better on their own, lazy even. I don't believe watching a video made by someone else will help me find out what you think, which is what I'm asking. T C Lee is a very well respected gynocologist ! Not a GP ---------- Post added 10-05-2015 at 23:42 ---------- So there must be a paper written as a result of this miracle. The author could be in for a Nobel Prize. She has given a testimony in a magazine , she has 2 scan pictures which prove she had fibroids ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 T C Lee is a very well respected gynocologist ! Not a GP Both would have access to the latest literature on the subject. After all, it would be the GP that would send the patient with suspected fibroids to the specialist. So they'd have to stay up to date with the latest literature would say on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Both would have access to the latest literature on the subject. After all, it would be the GP that would send the patient with suspected fibroids to the specialist. So they'd have to stay up to date with the latest literature would say on the subject. GPs aren't all enough up on that subject that's why they refer to a consultant , T C Lee has given his verdict to us and that was she needed an urgent hysterectomy , I think that is good enough for me , yet when she was re scanned to see how they had grown , there was none or indeed scarring which would be seen if fibroids are present, Dr Farih was amazed, she said it was a miracle as she had never seen anyone not need an operation with fibroids that size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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