SnailyBoy Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 I don't believe i have , If man doesn't live by what God tells him how can you expect everything to be perfect , Christians aren't perfect we are not exempt from illness etc What acts justify a child suffering a horrible disease in your worldview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwhine Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Sickness is not from God, it comes from the devil himself! The cause of sickness is not demonic, however the very existence of sickness is due to the evil one. But if god created everything, that includes the devil. I believe in creation not evolution Points and laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 NO! God did NOT create evil !!!!! and God did NOT create the devil !!! . In fact, everything that God created was GOOD ! (Genesis 1:4, 12, 18, 21, 25, 31, etc.) When God created His angels, Lucifer (now known as the "devil") was originally created as one of the highest ranking of all the angels. Indeed, he was probably the highest ranking of ALL the Angels! And he was not evil at his creation. Indeed, he was created to be an Holy Angel of the Holy God of the Universe ! Specifically, Lucifer was created to be the "Anointed Cherub (Angel) that Covereth" (Ezekiel 28:14). Thus, Lucifer (who later became known as the devil, after his sinful rebellion against God, his Creator) was originally created to be and was a Guardian Cherub, with the purpose of protecting and proclaiming God's Holiness! Therefore, obviously, Lucifer (the devil) was not "evil" at his creation. So, you ask, What happened? Where did "EVIL" come from? And how did Lucifer become the devil? Glad you asked! And the answer lies in the fact that when God created Lucifer and all the angels (and us), He gave them (and us) a WILL! ---------- Post added 03-12-2015 at 09:08 ---------- But if god created everything, that includes the devil. Points and laughs. NO! God did NOT create evil !!!!! and God did NOT create the devil !!! . In fact, everything that God created was GOOD ! (Genesis 1:4, 12, 18, 21, 25, 31, etc.) When God created His angels, Lucifer (now known as the "devil") was originally created as one of the highest ranking of all the angels. Indeed, he was probably the highest ranking of ALL the Angels! And he was not evil at his creation. Indeed, he was created to be an Holy Angel of the Holy God of the Universe ! Specifically, Lucifer was created to be the "Anointed Cherub (Angel) that Covereth" (Ezekiel 28:14). Thus, Lucifer (who later became known as the devil, after his sinful rebellion against God, his Creator) was originally created to be and was a Guardian Cherub, with the purpose of protecting and proclaiming God's Holiness! Therefore, obviously, Lucifer (the devil) was not "evil" at his creation. So, you ask, What happened? Where did "EVIL" come from? And how did Lucifer become the devil? Glad you asked! And the answer lies in the fact that when God created Lucifer and all the angels (and us), He gave them (and us) a WILL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) NO! God did NOT create evil !!!!! and God did NOT create the devil !!! . In fact, everything that God created was GOOD ! (Genesis 1:4, 12, 18, 21, 25, 31, etc.) When God created His angels, Lucifer (now known as the "devil") was originally created as one of the highest ranking of all the angels. Indeed, he was probably the highest ranking of ALL the Angels! And he was not evil at his creation. Indeed, he was created to be an Holy Angel of the Holy God of the Universe ! Specifically, Lucifer was created to be the "Anointed Cherub (Angel) that Covereth" (Ezekiel 28:14). Thus, Lucifer (who later became known as the devil, after his sinful rebellion against God, his Creator) was originally created to be and was a Guardian Cherub, with the purpose of protecting and proclaiming God's Holiness! Therefore, obviously, Lucifer (the devil) was not "evil" at his creation. So, you ask, What happened? Where did "EVIL" come from? And how did Lucifer become the devil? Glad you asked! And the answer lies in the fact that when God created Lucifer and all the angels (and us), He gave them (and us) a WILL! ---------- Post added 03-12-2015 at 09:08 ---------- NO! God did NOT create evil !!!!! and God did NOT create the devil !!! . In fact, everything that God created was GOOD ! (Genesis 1:4, 12, 18, 21, 25, 31, etc.) When God created His angels, Lucifer (now known as the "devil") was originally created as one of the highest ranking of all the angels. Indeed, he was probably the highest ranking of ALL the Angels! And he was not evil at his creation. Indeed, he was created to be an Holy Angel of the Holy God of the Universe ! Specifically, Lucifer was created to be the "Anointed Cherub (Angel) that Covereth" (Ezekiel 28:14). Thus, Lucifer (who later became known as the devil, after his sinful rebellion against God, his Creator) was originally created to be and was a Guardian Cherub, with the purpose of protecting and proclaiming God's Holiness! Therefore, obviously, Lucifer (the devil) was not "evil" at his creation. So, you ask, What happened? Where did "EVIL" come from? And how did Lucifer become the devil? Glad you asked! And the answer lies in the fact that when God created Lucifer and all the angels (and us), He gave them (and us) a WILL! So you believe that God didn't know that Lucifer was going to turn bad? So are you you claiming that God isn't omniscient? Edited December 3, 2015 by JFKvsNixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatrajah Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Can you describe the sequence of events that led to the above quotations being written down in the first instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdom Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Put simply a thief is not born a thief he chooses that course The devil was created an angel but became the devil satan (resistor)when he chose to oppose Gods purpose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Put simply a thief is not born a thief he chooses that course The devil was created an angel but became the devil satan (resistor)when he chose to oppose Gods purpose . So you believe that God didn't know that Lucifer was going to turn bad? So are you claiming that God isn't omniscient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Put simply a thief is not born a thief he chooses that course The devil was created an angel but became the devil satan (resistor)when he chose to oppose Gods purpose . But you miss the point altogether,your god is all powerful,the creator of every living thing so why not destroy evil? Not much common sense your god has,your argument is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 But you miss the point altogether,your god is all powerful,the creator of every living thing so why not destroy evil? Not much common sense your god has,your argument is weak. its not an argument its a debate !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 its not an argument its a debate !!! No answer though ,is that your only comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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