kidley Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No muslim in their right mind, would agree with the situation right now. I'm a muslim and have enough knowledge of Islam to be able to say that we strictly disagree with the murders that have been taking place. This is not self defence. The people that are being beheaded did not go to war there or try to kill muslims so this cannot be self defence. Every muslim I know has the same viewpoint. It is very very difficult for us because muslims are constantly being called barbaric, evil etc. But the majority of muslims, just like (I assume) the majority of christians, jewish and people of other religions, only want to live in peace. We just want to be happy, living our own lives without hurting anyone. No one should be forcing anyone into anything. Our Prophet, may peace be upon him, never targeted people like this, never encouraged this sort of hatred. He was incredibly peace loving and regardless of having stones thrown at him, garbage thrown at him, he didn't retaliate negatively. Like I said, every muslim I know feels this way too. Just because there are a few who have decided to distort the image of Islam, does not in any way or form mean that this madness is what muslims believe. Thank you for proving me wrong kidley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No muslim in their right mind, would agree with the situation right now. I'm a muslim and have enough knowledge of Islam to be able to say that we strictly disagree with the murders that have been taking place. This is not self defence. The people that are being beheaded did not go to war there or try to kill muslims so this cannot be self defence. Every muslim I know has the same viewpoint. It is very very difficult for us because muslims are constantly being called barbaric, evil etc. But the majority of muslims, just like (I assume) the majority of christians, jewish and people of other religions, only want to live in peace. We just want to be happy, living our own lives without hurting anyone. No one should be forcing anyone into anything. Our Prophet, may peace be upon him, never targeted people like this, never encouraged this sort of hatred. He was incredibly peace loving and regardless of having stones thrown at him, garbage thrown at him, he didn't retaliate negatively. Like I said, every muslim I know feels this way too. Just because there are a few who have decided to distort the image of Islam, does not in any way or form mean that this madness is what muslims believe. good post, finally some sense in between the hatred and vitriol, just a pity theres certain people that disregard the positives and just focus on the negatives because it backs up their warped viewpoint ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 12:44 ---------- i clearly did not say lol no you didnt, thats why i said who?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricicle Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 There is no debate, we are not at War. This is not a judgement call or an opinion but a fact. Posting a link to an idiot is not evidence that the country is at War. One word for you, Jihad. Look it up. ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 12:50 ---------- No muslim in their right mind, would agree with the situation right now. I'm a muslim and have enough knowledge of Islam to be able to say that we strictly disagree with the murders that have been taking place. This is not self defence. The people that are being beheaded did not go to war there or try to kill muslims so this cannot be self defence. Every muslim I know has the same viewpoint. It is very very difficult for us because muslims are constantly being called barbaric, evil etc. But the majority of muslims, just like (I assume) the majority of christians, jewish and people of other religions, only want to live in peace. We just want to be happy, living our own lives without hurting anyone. No one should be forcing anyone into anything. Our Prophet, may peace be upon him, never targeted people like this, never encouraged this sort of hatred. He was incredibly peace loving and regardless of having stones thrown at him, garbage thrown at him, he didn't retaliate negatively. Like I said, every muslim I know feels this way too. Just because there are a few who have decided to distort the image of Islam, does not in any way or form mean that this madness is what muslims believe. Nice post. Will you and your friends be organising demonstrations against ISIS? I realise you dont have to but at least it would show everyone you are against them and not for them secretly or otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 No muslim in their right mind, would agree with the situation right now. I'm a muslim and have enough knowledge of Islam to be able to say that we strictly disagree with the murders that have been taking place. This is not self defence. The people that are being beheaded did not go to war there or try to kill muslims so this cannot be self defence. Every muslim I know has the same viewpoint. It is very very difficult for us because muslims are constantly being called barbaric, evil etc. But the majority of muslims, just like (I assume) the majority of christians, jewish and people of other religions, only want to live in peace. We just want to be happy, living our own lives without hurting anyone. No one should be forcing anyone into anything. Our Prophet, may peace be upon him, never targeted people like this, never encouraged this sort of hatred. He was incredibly peace loving and regardless of having stones thrown at him, garbage thrown at him, he didn't retaliate negatively. Like I said, every muslim I know feels this way too. Just because there are a few who have decided to distort the image of Islam, does not in any way or form mean that this madness is what muslims believe. One word for you, Jihad. Look it up. ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 12:50 ---------- Nice post. Will you and your friends be organising demonstrations against ISIS? I realise you dont have to but at least it would show everyone you are against them and not for them secretly or otherwise The Americans protested in no uncertain manor against the Vietnam war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atz333 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 13:08 ---------- [/color] good post, finally some sense in between the hatred and vitriol, just a pity theres certain people that disregard the positives and just focus on the negatives because it backs up their warped viewpoint ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 12:44 ---------- lol no you didnt, thats why i said who?? I honestly think the reason why muslims don't say much is because quite honestly they feel like their voice won't be heard because the media has hyped up their own version of Islam in such a negative way. I mean who wants to hear that muslims are just normal, happy humans?? Live with a practising muslim for one day and you automatically see that we are just normal people who work hard, live our life and who have no need to enforce our religion on anyone. How can anyone expect someone to love a religion which encourages killing? But that is unfortunately how Islam is being depicted. It makes me very sad. But for me and many others, we want to prove them wrong. As a muslim, the way I live shows the world what a muslim is. For me that is a big responsibility and makes me want to be a good muslim. To tell the truth, to be kind to others, to always smile, to never make fun of anyone, to make others feel happy. It sounds very simple and it is. I just wish everyone else felt the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 One word for you, Jihad. Look it up. ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 12:50 ---------- Nice post. Will you and your friends be organising demonstrations against ISIS? I realise you dont have to but at least it would show everyone you are against them and not for them secretly or otherwise I don't need to look it up, it means struggle. Can you provide me with the link that proves we have declared War please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atz333 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Ricicle, I'm sorry, are you saying that we have to hold a demonstration to prove to the non muslim world that we muslims are against this? There is no need to prove anything to anyone. We don't need to 'show' anyone anything. Fair enough, a lot of people think that muslims are all terrorists, but us holding a demonstration is not going to change the reality of the situation. In that way, shouldn't every religion hold a demonstration too? Against every organisation they don't agree with? To 'show' everyone that they are against them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 13:08 ---------- [/color] I honestly think the reason why muslims don't say much is because quite honestly they feel like their voice won't be heard because the media has hyped up their own version of Islam in such a negative way. I mean who wants to hear that muslims are just normal, happy humans?? exactly the more you denounce a whole community then the more they are going to shrink back into that community People turn to extremes because they find they have no other way, no voice, disenfranchised, no other way out, they turn angry and want to fight back. the way to destroy groups like isis etc is for communities to join together, cut off their oxygen supply (ie:- people to recruit) theres even other islamic rebel groups out there ready to turn on isis and fight them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidley Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 ---------- Post added 14-09-2014 at 13:08 ---------- [/color] I honestly think the reason why muslims don't say much is because quite honestly they feel like their voice won't be heard because the media has hyped up their own version of Islam in such a negative way. I mean who wants to hear that muslims are just normal, happy humans?? Live with a practising muslim for one day and you automatically see that we are just normal people who work hard, live our life and who have no need to enforce our religion on anyone. How can anyone expect someone to love a religion which encourages killing? But that is unfortunately how Islam is being depicted. It makes me very sad. But for me and many others, we want to prove them wrong. As a muslim, the way I live shows the world what a muslim is. For me that is a big responsibility and makes me want to be a good muslim. To tell the truth, to be kind to others, to always smile, to never make fun of anyone, to make others feel happy. It sounds very simple and it is. I just wish everyone else felt the same. i was lead to understand that the Quran says one muslim must not condemn another muslim,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 i was lead to understand that the Quran says one muslim must not condemn another muslim,? its weird cos people like ISIS can take bits out of context to back up their own warped views / actions but also people of an anti islamic persuasion can also take bits out of context to back up their warped views / actions lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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