Mass shootings in America

[altus]

How do Second Amendment rights differ from First Amendment rights?

 

As pertaining to the Constitution, they are effectively the same. They share the same protections as all constitutionally enumerated rights.

 

Angel1.

 

If you don't think anything can be done about the second amendment you might want to consider what happened with the eighteenth and twenty-first amendments.

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If you don't think anything can be done about the second amendment you might want to consider what happened with the eighteenth and twenty-first amendments.

 

it rather depends on how you look at this.

like most UK people i am no expert on the american constitution or its amendments

 

like yourself not being american i have not bothered to study them all or their back stories

 

to me it shows that creating the 18th amendment was considered to be a mistake and then the 21st cancelled it out. perhaps a good general indication showing that amending the constitution is not wise.

 

 

 

of course if you want to have a different view then thats your privilege

[altus]

it rather depends on how you look at this.

like most UK people i am no expert on the american constitution or its amendments

 

like yourself not being american i have not bothered to study them all or their back stories

 

to me it shows that creating the 18th amendment was considered to be a mistake and then the 21st cancelled it out. perhaps a good general indication showing that amending the constitution is not wise.

 

of course if you want to have a different view then thats your privilege

 

I was making the point that just because something is defined as a right in an amendment to the US constitution doesn't mean it can't be taken away if a US government so decides.

[melthebell]

The latest shooting (at a Waffle house in Nashville) leaves 4 dead, and the gunman apparently on the loose and naked? Oo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/waffle-house-shooting-leaves-3-dead-4-wounded-gunman-sought/ar-AAwb6TW

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The UK and the USA are two countries divided by a common language, our standards are not theirs, everything American revolves around god, their country and their total superiority to every other nation. They couldn’t care a donkey’s plonker what other nation’s opinions on them are, they would readily invade Wales if ordered to do so.

 

you have a point and look at Wales the english (who of course have never thought they were superior to everyone else) were told to so they did and not only invaded Wales but occupied it too ...and they are still think they should run it.. and much the same with both Scotland Ireland too but not so much as they did Wales.

 

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I was making the point that just because something is defined as a right in an amendment to the US constitution doesn't mean it can't be taken away if a US government so decides.

 

can be taken away by a government.. 'can be' or even 'may be' neither make something correct that 'should not be'. or was never intended to be.

 

unalienable rights were stated and were and are not meant to be messed with by today's politicians trying to keep the votes of members of protest groups.

 

lets get somethings into perspective.

 

in the usa around 2/3 of the people killed with guns...did it to themselves.

 

don't forget that for every 3.25 million people are complaining that would only be a mere 1% of the population of the usa.

 

to be fair you'd probably need around 20%, 65 million (the population of the UK) before anyone should even think about taking anyone seriously in a democracy of that size.

 

also be aware whilst some people in the US want more gun control what they do not want is the right to own a gun to be removed.

 

but like i've said before a lot of people in the uk Ktrying to fix america when they know little or nothing about it and yet they have not even fixed the UK yet.

 

we have much bigger insidious and darker problems than a few nuts with guns

[alchemist]

The latest shooting (at a Waffle house in Nashville) leaves 4 dead, and the gunman apparently on the loose and naked? Oo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/waffle-house-shooting-leaves-3-dead-4-wounded-gunman-sought/ar-AAwb6TW

 

And yet another example of that national perverts ass BS that a "good man" with a gun will stop a "bad man", NOT!! they guy who fought him off was unarmed. HAs there been ANY mass shootings that were stopped by a good guy with a gun? Most seem to involve the bad guy shooting himself

[melthebell]

And yet another example of that national perverts ass BS that a "good man" with a gun will stop a "bad man", NOT!! they guy who fought him off was unarmed. HAs there been ANY mass shootings that were stopped by a good guy with a gun? Most seem to involve the bad guy shooting himself

you mean like this all american family?

Edited April 23, 2018 by melthebell

[tinfoilhat]

And yet another example of that national perverts ass BS that a "good man" with a gun will stop a "bad man", NOT!! they guy who fought him off was unarmed. HAs there been ANY mass shootings that were stopped by a good guy with a gun? Most seem to involve the bad guy shooting himself

 

There was one recently where a shooter was shot at and ran. I cant remember the details.

 

Apparantly, it happens alot and its suppressed by the the libtard mainstream media!

 

Hmmmmm.

[melthebell]

The guy that wrestled the rifle from the Waffle house shooting says hes not a hero, he only did it to save himself

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43862504

 

the same link also says the guy they want in relation to it was arrested last year near the white house

 

Mr Reinking was arrested last year after entering a restricted area near the White House, Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron said.

[Jeffrey Shaw]

The only answer to the problem is one that will never overcome the apparent NRA veto.

The weakness of a written Constitution!