melthebell Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 It has evolved over their whole history, yup it evolved from the early days of battling the indiginous natives to take over the country...invading so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 yup it evolved from the early days of battling the indiginous natives to take over the country...invading so to speak So, not an 'easy' problem to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) “Look, it’s really simple – mass shootings are really easy to fix, just get rid of the guns. Easy." Really? Just get rid of all the guns in America? Terrible over-simplification of their problems. It's written into their constitution for starters. Secondly is it really 'simple' to expect every person is going to hand them in? At best, the sensible, nice people would hand them in, the criminals, hard-liners and unstable would keep them. They have a horrible 'unsolveable' problem, I really feel sorry for them. That quote is certainly noy spot-on. Yes, it is written into the constitution but as it was written in AFTER the constitution was written it can therefore be also written out. You make the guns and ammunition illegal, OK that wont stop the criminals but it will in the end make it harder to get them and simpler for the police to enforce, in that if you have a gun you're breaking the law, simples It will take time, and more importantly, someone with guts to go against the national perverts association, so yes, you are right, Im afraid that it wont happen as no one in the States has the guts to do it. ---------- Post added 13-11-2018 at 14:41 ---------- So, not an 'easy' problem to solve. Thats the route the americans are taking, we cant fix it so why bother trying, lets just allow the citizens to wipe each other out, and do it perfectly legally In fact, one wonders why they bother with making murder illegal??? Edited November 13, 2018 by Groose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodview Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) “Look, it’s really simple – mass shootings are really easy to fix, just get rid of the guns. Easy." Really? Just get rid of all the guns in America? Terrible over-simplification of their problems. It's written into their constitution for starters. Secondly is it really 'simple' to expect every person is going to hand them in? At best, the sensible, nice people would hand them in, the criminals, hard-liners and unstable would keep them. They have a horrible 'unsolveable' problem, I really feel sorry for them. That quote is certainly noy spot-on. Yes, it is written into the constitution but as it was written in AFTER the constitution was written it can therefore be also written out. You make the guns and ammunition illegal, OK that wont stop the criminals but it will in the end make it harder to get them and simpler for the police to enforce, in that if you have a gun you're breaking the law, simples It will take time, and more importantly, someone with guts to go against the national perverts association, so yes, you are right, Im afraid that it wont happen as no one in the States has the guts to do it. ---------- Post added 13-11-2018 at 14:41 ---------- Thats the route the americans are taking, we cant fix it so why bother trying, lets just allow the citizens to wipe each other out, and do it perfectly legally In fact, one wonders why they bother with making murder illegal??? Only 65% ish percent of them even want stricter gun controls. All that means is restrictions on who can by fully automatic assualt rifles etc. The rest are ok with it...... Gun control is as good as its going to get it would seem. A ban on guns or ammunition isn't even on the table. Edited November 13, 2018 by Groose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Don't forget zombies, you'll need to be armed come the zombie apocalypse. You'll be grateful to the USA with their guns when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I'm no expert at US politics, but isn't that the same constitution full of amendments? And isn't that second amendment to bear arms based upon defending the US from European Kingdoms? Or its own tyrannical government: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaati Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 A couple of posts have been amended due to broken quote tags. It is important to use quote tags correctly to attribute the right quote to the forum user. In future, use the preview post before replying to make sure that quote are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontarian1981 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Don't forget zombies, you'll need to be armed come the zombie apocalypse. You'll be grateful to the USA with their guns when it happens. Not an expert on zombies, but are they not already supposed to be dead, if so can you kill them again with a gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Not an expert on zombies, but are they not already supposed to be dead, if so can you kill them again with a gun? I'm not sure but it probably means people'll need more guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Not an expert on zombies, but are they not already supposed to be dead, if so can you kill them again with a gun? Come on man, you shoot em on the head, everybody knows that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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