Cyclist should pay Road Tax

[alchresearch]

And for every cyclist that decides to use their bike instead of the car, that's one less car on the road. If anything they should be paid each time they use a bike for the commute.

[barleycorn]

due to looking at the emission bands, which show nil payment, and general taxation is still not a direct contribution, I pay both, go and join Bonzo.

This really is simple. Either you're being deliberately dense or are in fact too dense to understand. In either case you can have one more opportunity to understand, after that adamf's post should stand as law.

Here we go:

The upkeep of raods is paid for out of general taxation. Saying that I pay VED therefore I pay more for their upkeep is the same as saying I chew more chewing gum that you therefore I contribute more tax to the upkeep of the roads... or in other words, it's stupid.

To quote wiki:

"Arguing that cyclists therefore have less right to use the roads is like arguing that smokers should take precedence for medical treatment, because non-smokers don't buy cigarettes and therefore 'don't pay hospital tax"

 

Ping mods --- can we have a rule that anyone who can't understand how VED works after it's been explained clearly several times is simply deemed too stupid to post?

Agreed.

 

jb

[PRESLEY]

After almost 200 posts of the same explanation, if he doesn't understand it by now?!?

 

I do understand, I'm just stating it's not a fair system and there for should be changed.

[JFKvsNixon]

I do understand, I'm just stating it's not a fair system and there for should be changed.

 

You think that it should be changed from a system where the roads are funded from general taxation?

[Bonzo77]

I do understand, I'm just stating it's not a fair system and there for should be changed.

 

It couldn't be fairer. Everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads.....Everyone! (Who pays taxes). People who use vehicles that produce a high level of emissions have to pay VED. How many times have you read that on this thread? It's simple enough for most idiots to understand.

[barleycorn]

I do understand, I'm just stating it's not a fair system and there for should be changed.

In what way is it not fair? Everyone derives some benefit from the road system even if they never leave their house, how should they contribute?

 

jb

[BanjoBoy]

Don't worry. The system will change. Won't be overnight, but it will.

 

The wheels are in motion. The little coloured disk no longer needs to be displayed in the windscreen of the car. The biggest argument for keeping the so called 'Tax Disc' was to ensure that cars had visible proof that for a few days of the year they were insured and MOT'd. I reckon ten years from now the VED will simply be added to fuel.

[jfish1936]

I am interested in the history of motorists' payment for road use:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Fund

 

The Road Fund was never fully utilised, returning a surplus each year, and it became notorious for being used for other government purposes.[3] Winston Churchill opposed the Road Fund, saying: "It will be only a step from this for them to claim in a few years the moral ownership of the roads their contributions have created".[5] In 1926 as Chancellor of the Exchequer Churchill sought, successfully, to redirect a third of payments as taxation on luxury and pleasure uses with the stated aim of putting competition between road and rail on a fair basis.[5] At the same time, the majority of road building and maintenance costs were met from general and local taxation.

 

Well, many contributors are claiming ownership, as Churchill predicted.

 

BTW, my apologies for quoting "Wickedpaedia"; it's just the easiest place to find material free of charge, and I can usually tell if there's a serious distortion.

[CathS]

Does the OP just post threads to cause animosity?

[got a fag]

I do understand, I'm just stating it's not a fair system and there for should be changed.

 

what about all them mobility cars they don't pay any road tax and 99% are people who claim free road tax for a family member who have never been in the car MAKE THEM PAY :o:o