Is it OK to pay disabled workers less than the minimum wage?

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No.

 

An employer should set a minimum amount of work to achieve the wage being paid, if someone can't do the required amount of work then they can't expect to keep the job, if someone exceeds the minimum amount of work they should get a bonus to compensate them for working harder than their coworkers.

 

The answer for your last question is yes more people with disabilities would get jobs if employers were allowed to pay them less, but the point of a minimum wage is that it is the minimum.

 

But then an employer is prevented from giving a job to a disabled person who could do the job but produce less just because it wouldn't be economical.

But in such a case it could be possible for the wage to be made up to parity by a subsidy paid to people prepared to give such people jobs.

 

The problem is that to say such a thing is to be condemned by political points scorers.

[Stan Tamudo]

But then an employer is prevented from giving a job to a disabled person who could do the job but produce less just because it wouldn't be economical.

But in such a case it could be possible for the wage to be made up to parity by a subsidy paid to people prepared to give such people jobs.

 

The problem is that to say such a thing is to be condemned by political points scorers.

 

What the bloody hell does that mean?

[damageandy]

The coward should grow some balls and stick by what he said.

 

It just shows you the attitude the Tories have to people who are less fortunate, there will be party condemnation of what he said but we all know its whatt they really think.

[Stan Tamudo]

Let's not forget who first brought this bloke into government; New Labour in 2006 to review the benefits system. He described social security as "a multi-billion industry" and soon after A4e, Atos and the other parasites got in on the act.

[Mister M]

This discussion feels a bit odd. There seems to be an automatic assumption from some that disabled people aren't going to be as good at their job than somebody who isn't disabled. In many cases that isn't true - I think it's about judging people on what they can do, and the contribution they can make.

It stinks that Freud thinks there are people who worth less than the minimum wage - but then he didn't know how much people got on social security, in spite of being in charge of reforming it.

If we're talking about people who aren't up to their jobs, look no further than Lord Freud

 

Here is how it happened, apparently:

 

Freud revealed his rancid opinions at a conference fringe meetings when Tory Councillor, David Scott (@David ScottW) said: “I have a number of mentally damaged individuals, who to be quite frank aren’t worth the Minimum Wage.”

 

Lord Fraud agreed saying: “Now, there is a small… there is a group, and I know exactly who you mean, where actually as you say they’re not worth the full wage and actually I’m going to go and think about that particular issue, whether there is something we can do nationally, and without distorting the whole thing, which actually if someone wants to work for £2 an hour, and it’s working can we actually…”

 

The comments came to light after Ed Miliband challenged David Cameron about Lord Fraud’s comments at Prime Minister’s Question Time today. What Miliband didn’t mention is that this very same ******* was at the heart of Labour’s own Welfare Reforms such as the shambolic and cruel Atos run Work Capability Assessment.

 

(From JohnnyVoid blog)

Edited October 15, 2014 by Mister M

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[Stan Tamudo]

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Interesting is that Smithy?

[Mr Bloom]

He's a disgrace. The minimum wage is a joke anyhow, and he says some disabled workers are 'not worth' this insult of a wage. There are laws to protect disabled people. Wellfare Minister? - wouldn't pay him in washers! Mind you, he probably thinks a pint of milk still costs 12p. He needs to go now.

[Guest sibon]

He's a disgrace. The minimum wage is a joke anyhow, and he says some disabled workers are 'not worth' this insult of a wage. There are laws to protect disabled people. Wellfare Minister? - wouldn't pay him in washers! Mind you, he probably thinks a pint of milk still costs 12p. He needs to go now.

 

He needs sacking.

 

What will actually happen is that he'll cling to office for a few more days, then quit. He shouldn't get that luxury. What he said is unacceptable and he should be dismissed immediately.

[Mr Bloom]

He needs sacking.

 

What will actually happen is that he'll cling to office for a few more days, then quit. He shouldn't get that luxury. What he said is unacceptable and he should be dismissed immediately.

 

The longer Cameron protects him, the worse it looks and just adds to the Tory 'nasty party', 'out of touch', 'toffs', negative image.