PeteMorris Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It also means pre menstraul hahahha...good thinking..I always thought it was PMT, or PMS? :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 .... if they are so paranoid about their whereabouts and identity then maybe they shouldn't be posting on a public forum....Which seems perfectly sensible to me.....yes, to me too. A simple practical answer. It's why I don't do facebook, twitter et al. It's not that I'm against them, I just don't want some nut of an ex (or whatever) looking me up and having a field day. Apart from specialist, hobbyist forums, this is the only general forum I'm on. It has news of my city and acts as a bit of respite inbetween work tasks, or on a quiet day at work. I don't want to tell the world on twitter how my stools are today, so I don't involve myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 yes, to me too. A simple practical answer. It's why I don't do facebook, twitter et al. It's not that I'm against them, I just don't want some nut of an ex (or whatever) looking me up and having a field day. Apart from specialist, hobbyist forums, this is the only general forum I'm on. It has news of my city and acts as a bit of respite inbetween work tasks, or on a quiet day at work. I don't want to tell the world on twitter how my stools are today, so I don't involve myself. Brilliant post! Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Oh dear....You really are a master of backhanded insults...No matter.... Where did I say exclude these people?....I simply said if they are so paranoid about their whereabouts and identity then maybe they shouldn't be posting on a public forum....Which seems perfectly sensible to me....I wouldn't if I was that bothered. You said that they shouldn't use the forum if they were concerned. How is that not excluding them? That's your answer to their security concerns. Don't use a proxy (because you don't approve), instead, just don't use the forum. You're entirely not getting the entire issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Just to clarify my own personal view of on line anonymity on this board, please note this is not necessarily the view of the other mods or admins of this board. I don't care if you use fake details to register, I don't care if you use a proxy or tor to post, I don't care if you use a one shot email address to register and then delete it. As long as you don't break the forum rules I will leave you alone. However if you break the forum rules and I see it, if you get reported and I judge you to be the aggressor in a situation, in short if you prove yourself to be disruptive to the forum or abusive to those users who do behave, then I'll be very interested in your attempts to hide your identity and I will take them into account when I decide how to deal with you. The most likely outcome will be that I will assume you are hiding because you are trying to get round a ban and you don't want us to know who you were, in which case I will simply suspend your account until you talk to the helpdesk about it. Now of course I can't stop you reregistering, faking an email address & doing the proxy thing again and I don't particularly want to, you'll be back to square one and I'll ignore you as long as you behave. Edited October 20, 2014 by esme Aggressor not agressor tsk! and I have a spellchecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Yes got the other link thanks I'm not belittling anything.....yes that's once case where threats are totally unacceptable...utterly and totally. I wouldn't for one second dispute that. Yes there have recently been some awful cases of abuse....(can't remember her name) but that woman that abused the McCann's and subsequently committed suicide, once she was outed in public. So I do understand there are terrible cases of abuse. But my premise is that if you accept that people are entitled to a higher level of anonymity on SF by using a proxy server, you have to accept that abusers will too.... That wasn't your original premise at all. It is a valid statement though. However if both parties are using a proxy, then at least the abused doesn't have to worry about actual physical attacks and violence. They can ignore the abuse. And the police of course have some power to find out who people are, even when using proxies (although it's by no means guaranteed that they can). ---------- Post added 20-10-2014 at 15:43 ---------- Just to clarify my own personal view of on line anonymity on this board, please note this is not necessarily the view of the other mods or admins of this board. I don't care if you use fake details to register, I don't care if you use a proxy or tor to post, I don't care if you use a one shot email address to register and then delete it. As long as you don't break the forum rules I will leave you alone. However if you break the forum rules and I see it, if you get reported and I judge you to be the agressor in a situation, in short if you prove yourself to be disruptive to the forum or abusive to those users who do behave, then I'll be very interested in your attempts to hide your identity and I will take them into account when I decide how to deal with you. The most likely outcome will be that I will assume you are hiding because you are trying to get round a ban and you don't want us to know who you were, in which case I will simply suspend your account until you talk to the helpdesk about it. Now of course I can't stop you reregistering, faking an email address & doing the proxy thing again and I don't particularly want to, you'll be back to square one and I'll ignore you as long as you behave. Seems like quite a reasonable way to deal with the whole thing. Including being more suspicious if there is an incident. Can't fault this as a way of approaching the whole issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Just to clarify my own personal view of on line anonymity on this board, please note this is not necessarily the view of the other mods or admins of this board. I don't care if you use fake details to register, I don't care if you use a proxy or tor to post, I don't care if you use a one shot email address to register and then delete it. As long as you don't break the forum rules I will leave you alone. However if you break the forum rules and I see it, if you get reported and I judge you to be the agressor in a situation, in short if you prove yourself to be disruptive to the forum or abusive to those users who do behave, then I'll be very interested in your attempts to hide your identity and I will take them into account when I decide how to deal with you. The most likely outcome will be that I will assume you are hiding because you are trying to get round a ban and you don't want us to know who you were, in which case I will simply suspend your account until you talk to the helpdesk about it. Now of course I can't stop you reregistering, faking an email address & doing the proxy thing again and I don't particularly want to, you'll be back to square one and I'll ignore you as long as you behave. Which is breaking the forum rules ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 That wasn't your original premise at all. It is a valid statement though. However if both parties are using a proxy, then at least the abused doesn't have to worry about actual physical attacks and violence. They can ignore the abuse. And the police of course have some power to find out who people are, even when using proxies (although it's by no means guaranteed that they can). So in effect you're saying abuse is fine, if you're sufficiently anonymous enough to be sure they can't find you as a victim?....and there's a distinct possibility that the perpetrator can't be found either.....!!...What strange logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavannahP Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 So in effect you're saying abuse is fine, if you're sufficiently anonymous enough to be sure they can't find you as a victim?....and there's a distinct possibility that the perpetrator can't be found either.....!!...What strange logic. You can ban the abuser and the abuse will stop, what you can't do is stop the abuser finding the real identity of their victim and continuing the abuse in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Which is breaking the forum rules !Neither you nor I can see those details, so it's a bit academic, but if the Admins seriously wish to dig through everyones registration details and verify them somehow, then that's up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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