SavannahP Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 That's not true though and it's not always possible. Yes it is true. What about someone who is made redundant? They would be given enough work to keep themselves afloat until they find another job. Why should they be forced to pull weeds when they should be looking for work? No one would force anyone to do anything, they can support them selves from their saving if they don't want help from the state. Why should the unemployed be rubbing shoulders with people doing community service?? I haven't said they should be. I'd rather see them being proactive, making phone calls, making appointments with agencies, attending interviews. Doing that for 16 hours a day would be tedious, Pulling weeds can be done by people who are employed to pull weeds! They would be employed by the local council on a temporary contract until they find another job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Or even in the gutter. The sadness is they can't attack what they aspire to be, and dislike what they are, but it's much easier to attack yourself by seemingly attacking those that are similar because what they aspire to is so far out of their reach. It's a self inflicting thing mostly imo. The media helps to keep the disenfranchised at logger heads with one another. Spot on! ---------- Post added 25-10-2014 at 15:17 ---------- Yes it is true. They would be given enough work to keep themselves afloat until they find another job. No one would force anyone to do anything, they can support them selves from their saving if they don't want help from the state. I haven't said they should be. Doing that for 16 hours a day would be tedious, They would be employed by the local council on a temporary contract until they find another job. Thankfully your ideals are never going to happen. Even if they did, people would revolt. Power is slowly shifting back into the hands of the people. Your draconian views are a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavannahP Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Thankfully your ideals are never going to happen. Even if they did, people would revolt. Power is slowly shifting back into the hands of the people. Your draconian views are a thing of the past. So despite the evidence which shows that unemployment is bad for your health, and that working is good for your health, you would prefer to see people unemployed rather than working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteowl Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 <snip> No one would force anyone to do anything, they can support them selves from their saving if they don't want help from the state. <snip> If only there was an insurance you could pay to cover your dole payments if you got made redundant. Perhaps they should introduce one across the nation - and as it would be national, it could be called national insurance or something like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavannahP Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If only there was an insurance you could pay to cover your dole payments if you got made redundant. Perhaps they should introduce one across the nation - and as it would be national, it could be called national insurance or something like that ? That's a good idea, it could work along the lines of if you have paid into it you will get some financial help for up to six months after which you will have to support yourself or the state will give you enough work to keep you afloat until you find something better. If you haven't paid into it the state will find you enough work to keep you afloat until you find something better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) So despite the evidence which shows that unemployment is bad for your health, and that working is good for your health, you would prefer to see people unemployed rather than working. Unemployment isn't bad for health. Long term unemployment may be, but claiming JSA for say a month while looking for work isn't bad for your health. For a start, some gyms offer free sessions for people who are unemployed. If someone could spend 2/3 hrs a day searching for work online, driving to companies and recruitment consultants with their CV, while using the gym, chances are they'll improve their health and get a job much sooner than they would if they were pulling weeds with criminals! Edited October 25, 2014 by Bonzo77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Tamudo Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm surprised firemanbob, aka Smithy hasn't chipped in on this thread. It's right up his street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavannahP Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Unemployment isn't bad for health. Long term unemployment may be, but claiming JSA for say a month while looking for work isn't bad for your health. For a start, some gyms offer free sessions for people who are unemployed. If someone could spend 2/3 hrs a day searching for work online, driving to companies and recruitment consultants with their CV, while using the gym, chances are they'll improve their health and get a job much sooner than they would if they were pulling weeds with criminals! According to this it is. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-leahy-phd/unemployment-health_b_2616430.html We all know that unemployment is one of the most difficult times in one's life, but did you know that it could possibly kill you? In a study in Finland, Professor Pekka T. Martikainen found that people who had been unemployed in prior years had higher mortality rates than people never unemployed. Rates of mortality for previously-unemployed people were higher for men (141 percent) than for women (35 percent). Those who had experienced unemployment at two points in time over a three year period had even higher rates of mortality: The increased rate of mortality among men was 279 percent and among women 107 percent. And this http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/workplacehealth/Pages/work-is-good-for-health.aspx And this http://www.livescience.com/13578-unemployment-health-mortality.html And this https://ideas.repec.org/a/taf/applec/v38y2006i20p2335-2350.html The results show that short-term unemployment has only a significant (and negative) effect for men, while for women short-term unemployment does not have a significant effect on health satisfaction. Being unemployed for a long period has a significant and negative effect for both men and women. Finally, it can be also concluded from the empirical analysis that reemployment has a significant and positive effect on health satisfaction for both unemployed men and women, independent of how long individuals have been unemployed. Edited October 25, 2014 by SavannahP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Have any studies been done to prove that pulling weeds with criminals instead of looking for work is better for your health and good for your moral? Didn't think so...... Edited October 25, 2014 by Bonzo77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm surprised firemanbob, aka Smithy hasn't chipped in on this thread. It's right up his street. See SavannahP, he's giving bob a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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