Agency Nursing costs of £5 billion

[SavannahP]

If the NHS in general is spending 5 billion a year on agency staff, then that is for more than BH cover isn't it.

 

BH cover

 

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I believe they are - but by virtue of the fact that it takes 3 years to train a Registered Nurse at degree level (2 years for a post grad diploma) the shortfall won't happen overnight.

Couple that with the type of training that nurses now receive means they are not ready to do the job after 3 years and have to do a further 6 months at least in a preceptorship period compounds the problem.

 

According to this they are cutting training places for British students.

 

 

Number of foreign nurses up 50pc in a year

More than 5,000 nurses come to UK from EU, as NHS cuts training for home-grown staff

 

The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) on Tuesday said poor planning by NHS central bodies meant hospitals were paying heavily for “quick fix” solutions to recruit from abroad.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10828893/Number-of-foreign-nurses-up-50pc-in-a-year.html

[Cyclone]

Bank Holiday cover.

[JFKvsNixon]

According to this they are cutting training places for British students.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10828893/Number-of-foreign-nurses-up-50pc-in-a-year.html

 

The link says that training places has been increased.

 

A Department of Health spokesman said: “There are over 5,100 more nurses on our wards now than in 2010 and 1,000 extra adult nursing training places are being created this year.

[truman]

The link says that training places has been increased.

 

it also says

 

"The surge follows cuts to NHS programmes to train nurses in this country, with 10,000 training places cut since 2010."

[JFKvsNixon]

it also says

 

"The surge follows cuts to NHS programmes to train nurses in this country, with 10,000 training places cut since 2010."

 

Yep it does. So they have cut place in the past, but are now increasing training again. So they are not cutting training places as was stated.

[truman]

Yep it does. So they have cut place in the past, but are now increasing training again. So they are not cutting training places as was stated.

 

I wonder why they felt the need to label them as "adult" training places..are these different to the uni qualifications?

[JFKvsNixon]

I wonder why they felt the need to label them as "adult" training places..are these different to the uni qualifications?

 

No, I think that the training is to become an adult nurse, as opposed to paediatric, learning difficulty or mental health nurse.

[Cyclone]

They don't specialise until after training is complete though... And my Mum (anecdote I know) worked on both paediatrics and general wards amongst others.

[Anna B]

I believe they are - but by virtue of the fact that it takes 3 years to train a Registered Nurse at degree level (2 years for a post grad diploma) the shortfall won't happen overnight.

Couple that with the type of training that nurses now receive means they are not ready to do the job after 3 years and have to do a further 6 months at least in a preceptorship period compounds the problem.

 

Do you happen to know how much of this training is spent on the wards?

[JFKvsNixon]

They don't specialise until after training is complete though... And my Mum (anecdote I know) worked on both paediatrics and general wards amongst others.

 

No you choose which speciality you want to do when you apply, hence the term adult training places.