Agency Nursing costs of £5 billion

[Daven]

Do you happen to know how much of this training is spent on the wards?

 

The preceptorship period is spent totally on the ward/ department or in the community working as a Staff Nurse but one who is should always be working with another trained nurse and be supernumerary () - this is NEVER the case in my experience - not beyond the first week anyway because staffing levels never allow it in the real world.

The preceptor period is full of assessments and observations which have to be carried out by her superiors before the Staff Nurse is allowed to 'go solo' - well, that's the theory anyway.

[tzijlstra]

One can not pay nurses enough. One can however pay them too much.

 

Frankly I have no insight into this whole story (and I suspect nobody else, including HM's government) and I don't really care. It is pretty obvious that the cost of care is going to sky-rocket no matter what we do.

[Cyclone]

No you choose which speciality you want to do when you apply, hence the term adult training places.

 

Education requirements needed to practice as a specialist nurse

Entry level qualifications to become a specialist nurse involve having a RN qualification, a first

level initial registration with the NMC and in some cases a period of experience of sufficient length

in professional practice. This ‘period of experience of sufficient length’ varies across specialities

and roles.

 

You must be a RN (Registered Nurse) before you can then choose to specialise.

 

http://www.rcn.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/501921/4.13_RCN_Factsheet_on_Specialist_nursing_in_UK_-_2013.pdf

 

According to the Royal College of Nursing.

[JFKvsNixon]

You must be a RN (Registered Nurse) before you can then choose to specialise.

 

http://www.rcn.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/501921/4.13_RCN_Factsheet_on_Specialist_nursing_in_UK_-_2013.pdf

 

According to the Royal College of Nursing.

 

Yea you are right, to be a nurse specialist you need to have completed your nurse training first. For example, you cannot become an acute pain specialist nurse if you are not a qualified nurse.

 

However, you decide what speciality you want to work in when you apply to the university. For example you apply to do your adult nurse training, your mental health nurse training, paediatric nurse train or learning difficulty nurse training.

 

It used to be possible under some circumstances to swap after 18 months of your training, but I'm not sure if this is still possible.

[RutlandFlyer]

They don't specialise until after training is complete though... And my Mum (anecdote I know) worked on both paediatrics and general wards amongst others.

 

Not quite true - there is a specific children's nursing degree, after which you cannot, by law, treat adults. That's why they're specifically stating adult nursing places.

 

Strangely, if you do adult nursing you can still treat children. Apparently it's do with modern chidren's nursing being so specialised that parts of it no longer apply to adults.

 

It seems like a strange state of affairs and on the face of it, you might wonder why anyone would bother doing a children's nursing degree when you could do adult nursing and work with children anyway. My sister did one though, because it's very difficult to climb the career ladder in children's nursing with an adult nursing degree. It's fine if you just want to nurse, but if you've got ideas above and beyond that you're not likely to get very far.