poppet2 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) But didn't we all suspect this. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ids-government-under-fire-massaging-4575637 “Sanctions are being applied unfairly to job-seekers, as well as the sick and disabled,” Ms Abrahams said. “The reason the Government is doing this is that it gets them off the JSA claimant figures, so it looks like there are fewer people unemployed.” The Government claims that sanctioned claimants who leave the benefit system are going into work – showing their tough regime works. But the Oxford study suggests this is untrue in a “majority” of cases. Edited November 10, 2014 by poppet2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andil Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 But didn't we all suspect this. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ids-government-under-fire-massaging-4575637 Its someones opinion that the figures are being massaged and a DWP spokesman dismissed the study, saying: “It looks to be partially based on unreliable data.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Its someones opinion that the figures are being massaged and a DWP spokesman dismissed the study, saying: “It looks to be partially based on unreliable data.” Important enough for MPs to hold an enquiry though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Its someones opinion that the figures are being massaged and a DWP spokesman dismissed the study, saying: “It looks to be partially based on unreliable data.” And the government data is reliable?....Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 And the government data is reliable?....Hmmmmm Probably this... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/iain-duncan-smith-accused-benefits-4594932 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Probably this... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/iain-duncan-smith-accused-benefits-4594932 I wasn't suggesting the Gov data was reliable....As the old saying goes...There's lies, damn lies and statistics..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andil Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 And the government data is reliable?....Hmmmmm I have no idea who's data is the most reliable, I have no reason to believe either of them, the government might be fudging the figures but it might be Professor David Stuckler that is fudging the figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 I have no idea who's data is the most reliable, I have no reason to believe either of them, the government might be fudging the figures but it might be Professor David Stuckler that is fudging the figures. But don't our leaders always tell the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 But don't our leaders always tell the truth? If one of them told me today was Monday, I'd have to check the calendar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 This is what gets me... The Government claims that sanctioned claimants who leave the benefit system are going into work – showing their tough regime works. But the Oxford study suggests this is untrue in a “majority” of cases. So let's have the figures on how many of those sanctioned, immediately return after their sanctioned period is over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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