Bonzo77 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) Are tobacco companies and breweries accountable? Was booze and baccy really ever regulated or controlled. What's the situation on binge drinking by 18 plus year olds in the UK which from reports I hear has become something is a big problem. High school kids boozing it up is a problem here which has existed for some time The history of tobacco abuse, lung cancer etc speaks for itself. If they cant control abuse and over indulgence of either of the above how do you think they could manage to do so with other controlled substances? I know what you're saying about the present situation on criminalizing drug use but perhaps it's just better to try and leave it as is instead of opening up a Pandora's box where even more may become addicted You keep saying more people would become addicted. Can you please explain how that would happen? Let's take heroin for example. Here's how you control it. Only addicts have access to the drug. They get it by signing up to a program, similar to a methadone programme. Addicts collect their dose, use clean needles to administer the dose, and dispose of their used needles at the shooting gallery. Drugs are not allowed in or out of the building. As part of this programme, they have access to free help and advice from medical professionals who specialise in addiction. Yes, there still might be a tiny black market for heroin, but nowhere near as big as it is today. In fact, the market would be so small that many top dealers would probably cut out heroin all together, it wouldn't make a viable business any more. Do you not think this is a better option than spending billions on an unwinnable war that costs many lives (both innocent and guilty) every year?? Edited November 22, 2014 by Bonzo77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Hopefully NEVER. If you need illegal drugs to get through a day then you lead a very very sad life ! Be thankful for what you already have, there's plenty of things around you to give you an high without resorting to drug taking - try helping someone less fortunate than yourself, that in itself should give you an high. If drug taking wasn't wasn't so rife, there would be less crime committed. Legalisation reduces crime. Particularly if the state supplies heroin to those who are addicted. They go from being acquisitive criminals causing harm to themselves and others, to productive members of society again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 If the arguments for legislation were taken on board would it mean massive reductions in the police force, courts, probation service, and prisons and staff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 If the arguments for legislation were taken on board would it mean massive reductions in the police force, courts, probation service, and prisons and staff ? I doubt it very much. Those professions would be able to focus on other types of criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Hopefully NEVER. If you need illegal drugs to get through a day then you lead a very very sad life ! Be thankful for what you already have, there's plenty of things around you to give you an high without resorting to drug taking - try helping someone less fortunate than yourself, that in itself should give you an high. If drug taking wasn't wasn't so rife, there would be less crime committed. "NEVER",you know nothing about cannabis use,if you did you would know that weed is preferable to being drunk,is non addictive and look at the deaths from alcohol,none from weed worldwide.As for crime,a tiny number of crimes linked to weed,its the powders that create the trouble not weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) "NEVER",you know nothing about cannabis use,if you did you would know that weed is preferable to being drunk,is non addictive and look at the deaths from alcohol,none from weed worldwide.As for crime,a tiny number of crimes linked to weed,its the powders that create the trouble not weed.It might not be biologically/chemically addictive but it can be just as addictive psychologically as anything else, including chocolate, sex, gym workouts, TV shows etc. It's a moot point really and totally down to the individual's character. Just thought I'd get it in there before one of the anti cannabis bunch tries to give a distorted version of it. ---------- Post added 22-11-2014 at 12:23 ---------- If the arguments for legislation were taken on board would it mean massive reductions in the police force, courts, probation service, and prisons and staff ? I doubt it, it'd just free them up to deal with more serious crime. If someone had said "yes" to your question, would you have argued that we should keep weed illegal to avoid redundancies in the courts/police/prison services? Edited November 22, 2014 by RootsBooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiecass Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 It might not be biologically/chemically addictive but it can be just as addictive psychologically as anything else, including chocolate, sex, gym workouts, TV shows etc. It's a moot point really and totally down to the individual's character. Just thought I'd get it in there before one of the anti cannabis bunch tries to give a distorted version of it. Not trying to distort anything,cannabis is not physically addictive,and is easy to stop with no pain,unlike powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Not trying to distort anything,cannabis is not physically addictive,and is easy to stop with no pain,unlike powders. I didn't say you were distorting anything, have another read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 If the arguments for legislation were taken on board would it mean massive reductions in the police force, courts, probation service, and prisons and staff ? You'd hope so wouldn't you. Not immediately of course, but over time. Meaning huge savings in government expenditure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I doubt it, it'd just free them up to deal with more serious crime. If someone had said "yes" to your question, would you have argued that we should keep weed illegal to avoid redundancies in the courts/police/prison services? I just wondered if this came into the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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