Popeye1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Don't these inbreds masquerading as Blades supporters know the amount of damage they are doing to the club . The sooner they name and shame them the better. And don't the club know the damage they are doing to the club. On the news they have issued a statement that they will ban the tweeter from the club for life - good. How about the same ban for a convicted rapist. They seem to be getting even more confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Is there an elephant in the room here? He still maintains his innocence. His family believe him, his girl friend believes him, his girlfriend's father spends a fortune on lawyers to clear his name. So what if people close to Evans think he's innocent? They'd hardly be the first people to convince themselves that a loved one did nothing wrong in the face of all the evidence to the contrary. SUFC have remained remarkably silent, considering the gravity of the situation. His case review hearing has been moved forward. They are usually heard last when the person in question has completed their sentence, those still inside have priority. One can only deduce that some people think he is innocent. The case review hearing will be interesting. Did SUFC club think Marlon King was innocent? If not given that SUFC have a track record of employing sex offenders why do you keep on insisting that the clubs clear intent to resign Evans is in some way founded upon access to privileged knowledge that he is innocent? ---------- Post added 16-11-2014 at 18:39 ---------- And don't the club know the damage they are doing to the club. On the news they have issued a statement that they will ban the tweeter from the club for life - good. How about the same ban for a convicted rapist. They seem to be getting even more confused. Right from the start it's been clear that the club couldn't care less about the rape and have all along been set on resigning Evans. Maybe if Evans had raped someone famous they would care but he didn't, he raped a waitress who wants anything but fame. In contrast the abusive tweeters said unpleasant things to a national & local treasure who SUFC have attempted to co-opt. It seems pretty clear what the club regard as the more serious offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I found this article in The Star where the football club have rightly condemned those making the vile online comments aimed at Jessica Ennis Hill ,but reading some of the comments left by United fans i just despair. some of the comments rightly slam the vile ,sick people who made the rape threats , but there are others from united fans supporting the convicted rapist . http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/sheffield-united-condemns-fans-for-abuse-of-those-against-re-signing-of-ched-evans-1-6955337 Also , although sheffield united have rightly condemned these sick people for their online abuse , the club themselves must shoulder the responsibility for creating this whole damaging, distasteful episode in the first place. They could have avoided all this by having nothing to do with a convicted rapist in the first place. This whole affair will only get worse unless the club act speedily to try and at least repair some of the damage done to their business, their brand and their image by cutting all ties with the Rapist and making a public statement ending any contact with Evans . Only them can they start to try and repair the damage they have caused to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Is there an elephant in the room here? He still maintains his innocence. His family believe him, his girl friend believes him, his girlfriend's father spends a fortune on lawyers to clear his name. SUFC have remained remarkably silent, considering the gravity of the situation. His case review hearing has been moved forward. They are usually heard last when the person in question has completed their sentence, those still inside have priority. One can only deduce that some people think he is innocent. The case review hearing will be interesting. Wishful suspicion raising on your part I think. He's been convicted, his first attempt at an appeal was rejected and the only reason the case review is being fast tracked is because of his high profile (something others don't benefit from). I can well believe he thinks what he did wasn't rape, but he doesn't decide what is legal or not - the court that originally tried him and the panel who reviewed his first request for appeal disagree with him. It's also understandable that his girlfriend doesn't want accept that the man she loves is a rapist and that her father would rather not have one as a potential son in law - neither of which change the facts. Evans doesn't get the benefit of the doubt now. The time for that was before he was first convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellco Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Did SUFC club think Marlon King was innocent? If not given that SUFC have a track record of employing sex offenders why do you keep on insisting that the clubs clear intent to resign Evans is in some way founded upon access to privileged knowledge that he is innocent? There is something happening at the club, there has to be. Why would they put themselves through all this turmoil? It would have been simple to make a statement about their intents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 There is something happening at the club, there has to be. Why would they put themselves through all this turmoil? It would have been simple to make a statement about their intents.... It's simple enough. They want to resign Evans rally but can't admit it at the moment. They were hoping this would all blow over but instead it's blown up in their faces. They've painted themselves into a corner and don't know how to get out of it. Their slow reaction to things like the threats towards Ennis Hill are symptomatic of their attitude and only exacerbating the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellco Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It's simple enough. They want to resign Evans rally but can't admit it at the moment. They were hoping this would all blow over but instead it's blown up in their faces. They've painted themselves into a corner and don't know how to get out of it. Their slow reaction to things like the threats towards Ennis Hill are symptomatic of their attitude and only exacerbating the situation. Both the club and Evans have underestimated public feeling. But this was evident when he was released. They should have kept low for a while and seen what the review brings.... He should have gone to play abroad for a while. Badly handled all round. Don't Saudis own Utd now? Not sure. Back home they would have probably beheaded the girl on the pitch for making the accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 There is something happening at the club, there has to be. Why would they put themselves through all this turmoil? Because as their past employment of Marlon king would suggest they have no problem with sex offenders and think the goals Ched Evans would likely score for them would come in useful perhaps? It would have been simple to make a statement about their intents.... Indeed it would, they however chose the strategy of attempting to quietly maintain ties with Evans, when they could (and should) have fired him, in the hopes of resigning him when he got out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Both the club and Evans have underestimated public feeling. But this was evident when he was released. They should have kept low for a while and seen what the review brings.... He should have gone to play abroad for a while. No. The club should have taken a principled stand on whether is is appropriate for them to put a convicted rapist in a position where he'll be a role model to young men. Actually, from their actions it's clear they have done that. It's just that their stand is that rapists make suitable role models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellco Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 No. The club should have taken a principled stand on whether is is appropriate for them to put a convicted rapist in a position where he'll be a role model to young men. Actually, from their actions it's clear they have done that. It's just that their stand is that rapists make suitable role models. I would agree with that. There is no room for serious criminals at football clubs who are supported by young people. The Evans issue though, I feel, is not about this. There are a significant amount of people who think he's innocent. So in effect they could agree with my first paragraph but still lobby for his return. This issue is ignored. Nobody is defending a rapist, they don't think he is a rapist. There is a vast difference. There are idiots who are trolling but they are just that, idiots. ---------- Post added 16-11-2014 at 19:16 ---------- Because as their past employment of Marlon king would suggest they have no problem with sex offenders and think the goals Ched Evans would likely score for them would come in useful perhaps? Indeed it would, they however chose the strategy of attempting to quietly maintain ties with Evans, when they could (and should) have fired him, in the hopes of resigning him when he got out. You keep mentioning the King issue. Also an undesirable. But this case has raised public opinion to a different level, because many people think he's innocent. Including the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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