History, info about Rose & Crown, wadsley, new owners

[Scooby1310]

We fell in love with this gem of a pub, a very Scottish me knows very little, any info etc would be very much appreciated xx

[hillsbro]

Hi Scooby1310 - the Top House (as the pub is known to us old Wadsleyites.) certainly has a long history. It is shown on a map of 1855 of which I have a rather poor photocopy - see here.

 

Looking in the old directories I have, the licensees are given as:

..1905 - James F. Shaw

..1925, 1931 - Arnold Maw

..1942, 1951 - William Henry Skelton

 

There are some 1960s/1970s photos of the pub on the picturesheffield.com site - here are links:

 

http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s21579&pos=13&action=zoom&id=24064

 

http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u02385&pos=16&action=zoom&id=37642

 

http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;u02386&pos=17&action=zoom&id=37643

[Scooby1310]

Fantastic thank you x

[Le Baron]

Hi Hillsbro,

 

Off topic but wondering if you could help me as well, have you any idea where Ellinbro road is/was in Hillsborough.

 

Thanks

[harvey19]

Ted Catlin ex Sheffield Wednesday player was landlord of the Rose and Crown in the 1960s.

Originally the top part was 2 separate cottages.

 

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Hi Hillsbro,

 

Off topic but wondering if you could help me as well, have you any idea where Ellinbro road is/was in Hillsborough.

 

Thanks

Leads up to Malin Bridge School. Joins Norris Road.

Edited December 3, 2014 by harvey19

[Le Baron]

Thanks, found it.

 

B

[hillsbro]

I just found some references to the Rose & Crown in the book A History of Wadsley 1800 - 1957 by Dr Harold Kirk-Smith, vicar of Wadsley. The pub was evidently built between 1833 and 1845, as Dr Kirk-Smith states that it didn't exist in 1833, but it is mentioned in a "Sheffield Independent" court report of February 1845. This report also gives a clue as to the name of the pub, as the licensee was one George Rose. Poor George was hauled before the bench for the heinous crime of "having company playing cards" in his house - here is a scan. George evidently had more than one string to his bow as he was one of Wadsley's many cutlers - he appears in the 1851 census return at the Rose & Crown as an "innkeeper" and also as a "pocket knife cutler employing 3 men". He was then aged 52 and lived with his "landlady" wife Elizabeth, 58, and five children. George Rose died in 1855 and Elizabeth took over the job of slaking the thirst of Wadsleyites - the 1861 census shows Elizabeth as the licensee; she died later in 1861. The "Rock" mentioned by Dr Kirk-Smith as being next door (at No 13 Stour Lane) is shown in as a pub in directories from the early 1900s until the mid-1930s. Another observation by Dr Kirk-Smith: "At holiday times there was a greasy pole erected at the Rose & Crown with a ham fastened on the top. The one who was successful in climbing the pole and reaching the ham obtained it as a prize". Here is a scan..

 

Other relevant press reports include one from the "Sheffield Daily Telegraph" of 31 July 1901 - see here. The "T. Pike" mentioned is Thomas Pike, who was licensee of the Rose & Crown at that time according to the 1901 census, as well as being a "steel roller".

Edited December 4, 2014 by hillsbro

[harvey19]

The "Rock" has been a private house for many years and is still there. It was a beer only pub I think.

[hisbuff]

Hi ellnborough road is the first road off dykes lane after. Malin bridge school if you are going up dukes. It continues in a weird crescent arrangement with a ginnel sort of around the old shops on dykes

[bullerboY]

Wadsley knives were known as Wadsley Flatbacks or Knocked ons and generally were of poor quality also no work was done on Mondays.