Bonzo77 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 The majority of people don't act violently towards others because it's not in their interest to do so(violence has negative consequences). But as I've said, if people heavily identify with religion, and religion heavily shapes their views about others and the world, then the propensity for extremism, violence, oppression, censorship is raised. That's because conflicting views - or those whom religion portrays negatively - makes them feel insecure, so they react to that. Is it not possible to be religious, and follow your religion to the book without being violent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Is it not possible to be religious, and follow your religion to the book without being violent? Yes it is, any kill the unbelievers bits in the Quran should not be taken literally and should be read in a historical context. Extremist Muslims are interpreting Islam to the absolute extreme to suit their own agenda of seeking power/control and this is not the intention of the majority of Muslims. Edited December 26, 2014 by mafya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryedo40 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Is it not possible to be religious, and follow your religion to the book without being violent? It's possible to be religious and not be violent. But if you were to follow religious texts to the letter, I don't see how it would be possible to not be hostile towards what differs. Of course, being hostile doesn't necessarily mean being violent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anfisa Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Nope. I'm Saying the vast majority follow their religion to the book, just like many Christians do in america. They just don't feel the need to act violently towards other people. It is not possible for you to know how many follow their chosen religion by the book, it is also not down to you to decide which ones are following it by the book and which ones are not, it is a decision for each and every believer and if one of them interprets the book in a way which leads to violence then the book is at fault for being ambiguous. ---------- Post added 26-12-2014 at 19:22 ---------- Is it not possible to be religious, and follow your religion to the book without being violent? Not when the book calls for violence and the examples set by the author were violent, you can follow the religion to a small degree but it does mean ignoring and turning a blind eye to parts of that religion. ---------- Post added 26-12-2014 at 19:27 ---------- Yes it is, any kill the unbelievers bits in the Quran should not be taken literally and should be read in a historical context. Extremist Muslims are interpreting Islam to the absolute extreme to suit their own agenda of seeking power/control and this is not the intention of the majority of Muslims. But it must have been the intentions of the author otherwise there would be a verse telling everyone to ignore certain verses after a set date, instead of each person deciding for themselves which bits to ignore and which bits to follow to the letter. Edited December 26, 2014 by anfisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Yes it is, any kill the unbelievers bits in the Quran should not be taken literally and should be read in a historical context. Extremist Muslims are interpreting Islam to the absolute extreme to suit their own agenda of seeking power/control and this is not the intention of the majority of Muslims. Why do so many countries still maintain the death penalty for apostasy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anfisa Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Why do so many countries still maintain the death penalty for apostasy? Because In Islam’s history, the vast majority of scholars held that apostasy in Islam is a crime punishable with the death penalty, typically after a waiting period to allow the apostate time to repent and return to Islam, and when it comes to religion history is very relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Mod Note As we've descended into personal insults and the exact same set of 4 legs vs 2 legs arguments we get every time there's a thread with the word 'Muslim' or 'Taliban' in the title, we think the thread has run it's course. If you have something new to add, please contact the helpdesk and ask the Admin team to reopen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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