esme Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Mod Note Kindly stop the bickering and discuss the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itrytoplease Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Wow! So brave. So courageous. So impressive! Youve got to admire those backward murdering scum now havent you. ---------- Post added 16-12-2014 at 14:27 ---------- No!! Let me stop you there! Its a tiny insignificant minority that do all the killing. Its nothing to do with the fabric of the religion. Its just a handful of idiots. And lone wolves. Dont forget those lone wolves. My bold Tiny, insignificant, tell that to the parents of the 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What a nonsense comment. The Taliban were created by America and Pakistan in the first place. The Bush regime then forced Pakistan into a war with them and Pakistan has been facing the consequences of that war ever since. Care to explain why it is a nonsense statement? Do you not feel it is time for Pakistan to sort out the issues it has with the Taliban? where did you get that figure from? I can guess:hihi: That figure is the total population of Pakistan (estimated) I realise that sort of comment might go over the head of some people, but I am happy to explain the punchline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilldig Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 And that's just an excuse to shift the blame from the problems caused by religion. Religion shapes their identity, beliefs & culture. Anything that differs from that - no matter how harmless - becomes or is seen as a threat to their way of life. And what do people do when they feel threatened: they fear, censor, or try to destroy the "threat" in their attempts to gain or regain control over the "problem". And they'll always find ways to justify what they do because their religion gives them the "God given authority" to do so. Religion, especially the abrahamic religions, are divisive. Always have been and always will be. Get rid of or diminish the religious identity and they won't have that convenient excuse. mickey finn is spot on. It's nothing to do with religion. Religion is just an excuse. Every religion that I have seen states, you shall not kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 My bold Tiny, insignificant, tell that to the parents of the 100 Its 132 isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryedo40 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) mickey finn is spot on. It's nothing to do with religion. Religion is just an excuse. Every religion that I have seen states, you shall not kill. If it had nothing to do with religion, religion wouldn't be an excuse. Religions usually state you should not kill, but that usually only applies to the in-group - not the out-group. The out-group(those who differ or deviate from those aggressive forms of religion) are usually seen a threat - or the enemy. And those who heavily depend on religion will, and evidently do, go to extremes to quash that "threat." And just to be clear here, not all religious people depend on religion the same. Most, IMO, are moderate and progressive and open to new and different ideas. Some just can't tolerate and accept those differences - which is why they do what they do. Edited December 17, 2014 by Ryedo40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumkin Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 How exactly would a Christian and proud avatar be offensive to other people's beliefs? The truth of the matter is my avatar seems to irritate muslim haters and I think I have just flushed out another one (You) so please spare me the offensive to others belief excuse...... I said sensitive because I meant sensitive...you can believe what you want, I'm not the one promoting my religion..........but I digress, and as a moderator has asked us to stop bickering ( I knew it wouldn't be long) I will just add my sorrow for the unnecessary loss of young lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If it had nothing to do with religion, religion wouldn't be an excuse. Religions usually state you should not kill, but that usually only applies to the in-group - not the out-group. The out-group(those who differ or deviate from those aggressive forms of religion) are usually seen a threat - or the enemy. And those who heavily depend on religion will, and evidently do, go to extremes to quash that "threat." As Anders Breivik did, proudly holding the Knights Templar slogan on and referring frequently to 'Christian beliefs and foundations' in his massive epistle on how Europe has to fight not only islamification but also those that propose multi-culturalism is the way forward, leading to him slaughtering young socialists. Tell me, did Anders Breivik represent you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryedo40 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 As Anders Breivik did, proudly holding the Knights Templar slogan on and referring frequently to 'Christian beliefs and foundations' in his massive epistle on how Europe has to fight not only islamification but also those that propose multi-culturalism is the way forward, leading to him slaughtering young socialists. Tell me, did Anders Breivik represent you? Certainly not. I'm an atheist, humanist and I'm secular. I'd say the MOD's signature pretty much represents my views. "A persons worth is not decided by the colour of their skin, religion, sexual orientation, gender or ability. It is decided by their words, deeds and how they treat their fellow human beings." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I wouldn't do that because in the present climate I would be sensitive to other peoples religious beliefs.........how about you? I wouldn't do that because there's no need to and even if there was, I wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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