Does god get fed up of having to forgive sex offenders and murderers ?

[anfisa]

Truther please! Tut

 

Like I already said...

 

Be careful what you believe

 

Science doesn't have all the answers and it never will

 

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/thehistoryofcancer/the-history-of-cancer-what-is-cancer

 

Human beings and other animals have had cancer throughout recorded history. So it’s no surprise that from the dawn of history people have written about cancer. Some of the earliest evidence of cancer is found among fossilized bone tumors, human mummies in ancient Egypt, and ancient manuscripts. Growths suggestive of the bone cancer called osteosarcoma have been seen in mummies. Bony skull destruction as seen in cancer of the head and neck has been found, too.

 

Our oldest description of cancer (although the word cancer was not used) was discovered in Egypt and dates back to about 3000 BC.

 

 

The word cancer came from the father of medicine, Hippocrates, a Greek physician. Hippocrates used the Greek words, carcinos and carcinoma to describe tumors, thus calling cancer "karkinos."

[Solomon1]

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancerbasics/thehistoryofcancer/the-history-of-cancer-what-is-cancer

 

Human beings and other animals have had cancer throughout recorded history. So it’s no surprise that from the dawn of history people have written about cancer. Some of the earliest evidence of cancer is found among fossilized bone tumors, human mummies in ancient Egypt, and ancient manuscripts. Growths suggestive of the bone cancer called osteosarcoma have been seen in mummies. Bony skull destruction as seen in cancer of the head and neck has been found, too.

 

Our oldest description of cancer (although the word cancer was not used) was discovered in Egypt and dates back to about 3000 BC.

 

 

The word cancer came from the father of medicine, Hippocrates, a Greek physician. Hippocrates used the Greek words, carcinos and carcinoma to describe tumors, thus calling cancer "karkinos."

 

With all due respect, what is your point Anfisa?

[anfisa]

With all due respect, what is your point Anfisa?

 

It would be difficult to blame modern living for cancers that afflicted people 5000 years ago especially when some religious people think God created the earth just 6000 years ago.

[Solomon1]

It would be difficult to blame modern living for cancers that afflicted people 5000 years ago especially when some religious people think God created the earth just 6000 years ago

 

The incidence of cancer in modern times, is vastly more frequent than in ancient times

 

I'm having difficulty following your train of thought here?

[anfisa]

The incidence of cancer in modern times, is vastly more frequent than in ancient times

 

I'm having difficulty following your train of thought here?

 

There are significantly more people and because of science and modern medicine we now know what kills most people, hundreds of years ago people died without anyone knowing the cause of death and the vast majority of deaths were not documented, so with respect you have no idea if cancer was more or less prevalent in the past, but we do know that cancer was killing people.

[Solomon1]

There are significantly more people and because of science and modern medicine we now know what kills most people, hundreds of years ago people died without anyone knowing the cause of death and the vast majority of deaths were not documented, so with respect you have no idea what killed people in the past, but we do know that cancer was killing people.

 

Ok .....

[teeny]

There are significantly more people and because of science and modern medicine we now know what kills most people, hundreds of years ago people died without anyone knowing the cause of death and the vast majority of deaths were not documented, so with respect you have no idea if cancer was more or less prevalent in the past, but we do know that cancer was killing people.

 

No it's true we don't but for instance people died from German measles , mumps , consumption , polio , even rickets but we do know some kinds of cancer were around a long time ago

[anfisa]

No it's true we don't but for instance people died from German measles , mumps , consumption , polio , even rickets but we do know some kinds of cancer were around a long time ago

 

Apart from rickets they are all caused by virus or bacteria and humans did not create them, so they evolved naturally or God made them in the knowledge that they would cause untold suffering and death to humans.

[janie48]

There are significantly more people and because of science and modern medicine we now know what kills most people, hundreds of years ago people died without anyone knowing the cause of death and the vast majority of deaths were not documented, so with respect you have no idea if cancer was more or less prevalent in the past, but we do know that cancer was killing people.

What would we do without all the amazing discoveries of of science?

http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/scientists_discover_that_atheists_might_not_exist_and_thats_not_a_joke-139982

[Ryedo40]

What would we do without all the amazing discoveries of of science?

http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/scientists_discover_that_atheists_might_not_exist_and_thats_not_a_joke-139982

 

That's a really sloppy article. Straight off the bat "They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul.”

 

Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of God or gods - that's all. Atheists can hold all sorts of other beliefs, including "spiritual" or none rational/none evidence based beliefs. That doesn't negate their atheism.

 

Scientists have long known that we, as a species, have a tendency to believe all sorts of whacky stuff - especially out of desperation or when we are disempowered. It's why people who are seriously ill are prone to seek faith-based "medicine" or buy snake-oil "cures". It why religion and other whacky beliefs flourish in non-stable environments - and in environments where education is limited or poor.

 

Cognitive scientists are aware that our species tends to apply intentional agency behind events - more so when our knowledge is limited(hear a strange noise, assume it's an unseen monster or some thing dangerous rather than the wind blowing.) We've evolved to be paranoid in this way because being paranoid, to some extent, has served our survival. We have a cognitive-bias towards committing false-positive errors, making us paranoid, and filling our limited knowledge about the events with the products of our fanciful imaginations: agency(gods, ghost, monsters, goblins, etc) & intention when, in reality, those events are perfectly natural with no intentional agency behind them. And because our species leans towards paranoia in this way, we tend to assume those perfectly natural, unintentional, non-personal events, are personal: it thunders and you think it's thundering because you've offended the agency responsible for the thunder. Another example would be when god believers think that someone's sex-life angers their god(agency) who, because he's angered, sends a flood or starts an earthquake. It's all baseless paranoia. And that's why I've often said that God belief is a form of paranoia.

Edited January 3, 2015 by Ryedo40