teeny Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Does he forgive murderers and rapists of children if they ask for forgiveness? Yes he does ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes he does ! Doesn't like non-believers though. That's the worst thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes he does ! Would you tell that to the parents of the victim? ---------- Post added 05-01-2015 at 21:31 ---------- Doesn't like non-believers though. That's the worst thing ever. :hihi::hihi: Oh dear I'll try and live with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 And According to the mythology then, Adam was 'perfect', like Jesus, before being tempted by the devil. Adam also had no knowledge of evil. If something is perfect in everyway, how can it become imperfect. For it to do so, it suggests there is flaw in its design. God, giving Adam free-will, was the flaw. Your God messed up and blames his creation for his mess. Jesus dying for the "sins" of others is essentially scapegoating - or allowing someone else to be punished for your wrong doings, and saying thank you after. It's an avoidance of responsibility, isn't it: Let someone else take the punishment so you don't have to. IMO, it would be morally wrong to allow someone else to pay for your wrong doings. Likewise, it would be wrong to accept that payment. SnailyBoy mentioned Slavery. And he's correct, Jesus did accept slavery, even comparing God to a slave master who beats his disobedient slaves with many stripes(Luke 12:47). The Bible is structured around the concept of Lord/Master & Servant/Slave. Lords/Masters punish their servants/slaves for not being "perfect" servants/slaves. God is perfect. The whole idea of God is that he is a perfect, higher entity. Otherwise, he wouldn't be God. And whilst the Athiest view of Jesus crucifixion is a scape-goating exercise, Christian's view it as the utlimate acknowledgement of love for his creation. But you aren't expected to have that view since you don't have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 God is perfect. The whole idea of God is that he is a perfect, higher entity. Otherwise, he wouldn't be God. And whilst the Athiest view of Jesus crucifixion is a scape-goating exercise, Christian's view it as the utlimate acknowledgement of love for his creation. But you aren't expected to have that view since you don't have faith. There's the Joker folks - game over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Doesn't like non-believers though. That's the worst thing ever. God doesn't like Sin full-stop. There's no levels of sin. Our hearts of full of sin. Whether I go out and murder someone or think ill of someone, it's sin. There's the Joker folks - game over Why? Am I quoting something not true? Are you implying that you have faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denlin Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 God is perfect. The whole idea of God is that he is a perfect, higher entity. Otherwise, he wouldn't be God. And whilst the Athiest view of Jesus crucifixion is a scape-goating exercise, Christian's view it as the utlimate acknowledgement of love for his creation. But you aren't expected to have that view since you don't have faith. We don't view the crucifixion as a scape-goating exercise, we don't believe the fairy story at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delayed Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 We don't view the crucifixion as a scape-goating exercise, we don't believe the fairy story at all I was basing my response on the original quote of Ryedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 God doesn't like Sin full-stop. There's no levels of sin. Our hearts of full of sin. Whether I go out and murder someone or think ill of someone, it's sin. Why? Am I quoting something not true? Are you implying that you have faith? Me having faith? nope. I like to believe as many true things as possible, faith doesn't come into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeny Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Doesn't like non-believers though. That's the worst thing ever. No he loves none believers and always gives them an opportunity to change , he is forever saying to them I am here for you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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