Our immigration policy..

[Xt500]

Because this country needs immigrants more than immigrants need it. Leaving the EU will maybe alter the type of immigrants, but it certainly won't put a hold to immigration.

 

We have something like 6-10 million people on the dole (or what ever they call them to get them off the lists) or zero hour low paid jobs and we NEED to ship others in?

 

Not as far as im concerned we dont.

We have very good people here more than capable of doing the work.

[tzijlstra]

This is just not true. British people work damn hard! You're talking about a small minority. A minority that's British, because immigrants don't usually qualify for benefits.

 

I am not just talking about Britain (although I did give that impression I suppose) I am talking about all the old (particularly European) economies. decades of a social liberal approach has resulted in people here earning three to four times as much as in up and coming economies whilst working far shorter weeks.

 

Our competitive advantage is based on higher average education levels than the rest of the world but Britain has notoriously poor uptake of higher degrees despite having a world leading HE sector.

 

Think big picture, this goes way beyond a few Roma in Pagehall.

 

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We have something like 6-10 million people on the dole (or what ever they call them to get them off the lists) or zero hour low paid jobs and we NEED to ship others in?

 

Not as far as im concerned we dont.

We have very good people here more than capable of doing the work.

 

It is a good job that it is nothing for you to be concerned about.

 

The unemployment rate amongst people with higher degrees is minimal and there are far more vacancies in knowledge-intensive jobs than there are native candidates.

 

Keep on listening to Farage about Romanian strawberry pickers whilst missing the point completely.

[JFKvsNixon]

We have something like 6-10 million people on the dole (or what ever they call them to get them off the lists) or zero hour low paid jobs and we NEED to ship others in?

 

Not as far as im concerned we dont.

We have very good people here more than capable of doing the work.

 

So in essence what you're suggesting is that Arsene Wenger should stop scouring the world looking for a central defender, and he should get down to his local dole office and pick one up from there.

[Xt500]

I am not just talking about Britain (although I did give that impression I suppose) I am talking about all the old (particularly European) economies. decades of a social liberal approach has resulted in people here earning three to four times as much as in up and coming economies whilst working far shorter weeks.

 

Our competitive advantage is based on higher average education levels than the rest of the world but Britain has notoriously poor uptake of higher degrees despite having a world leading HE sector.

 

Think big picture, this goes way beyond a few Roma in Pagehall.

 

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It is a good job that it is nothing for you to be concerned about.

 

The unemployment rate amongst people with higher degrees is minimal and there are far more vacancies in knowledge-intensive jobs than there are native candidates.

 

Keep on listening to Farage about Romanian strawberry pickers whilst missing the point completely.

 

Mate you must think everyone else is stupid!

 

People arnt listening to Farage,they go off what they see every day!

[dosxuk]

This thread makes me laugh. The same small minded people with delusions of how important the UK is on the world stage posting the same xenophobic nonsense and trying to wrap it up as some sort of politically correct method of managing the population of the world. The only thing that changes is the usernames...

 

 

A minority that's British, because immigrants don't usually qualify for benefits.

 

But I thought we were being "bled dry" by immigrants claiming our benefits?

[tzijlstra]

Mate you must think everyone else is stupid!

 

People arnt listening to Farage,they go off what they see every day!

 

No, I don't think anybody is stupid, not sure what gives you that impression.

 

Let me tell you what I see every day: a University that is filled to the brim with the brightest talent from around the globe - researching the cutting edge of their fields and bringing in millions, if not billions, of research funding into an economy that can only stay competitive because of this.

 

As a Sheffielder you must be aware that the only remaining steel industry in this city is that which is highly specialised. Ever considered what it takes to remain that specialised?

[JFKvsNixon]

This thread makes me laugh. The same small minded people with delusions of how important the UK is on the world stage posting the same xenophobic nonsense and trying to wrap it up as some sort of politically correct method of managing the population of the world. The only thing that changes is the usernames...

 

Exactly. The biggest price this country has paid for it's empire is that it is always looking back at what we used to be, instead looking forward and anticipating the challenges facing us in the future.

[anfisa]

Equally pointless having a debate with someone who's already had the same debate with you under a different username.

 

How's it hanging Smithy?

 

It is entirely up to you if you want to debate or not, but if you don't want your bizarre posts challenging then don't post.

 

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You've just stated that immigration should be based on skills and education,and discrimination should not come into it with regard to non EU people.............I just gave you an example of how this already applies............if you want to keep moving the goalposts,that is up to you.You will get that when you leave the EU.............your choice.

 

No you didn't, you explained how one potential employee would need a visa and another one would not need a visa, all based on their nationality so not quite an equal playing field.

 

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The whole thing stinks.

 

If we need a job filling,then train our own to do it.We are after all a rich country arnt we?

 

According to some of our immigrant population we are all lazy and useless.

 

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Speaking of false premises: I stated leaving the EU won't help with lowering immigration. You state that won't help, than carry on to explain that you want selective immigration. You changed the premise of the debate all on your own pal.

 

And I said that would rather depend on which party is in office, their immigration policy and how many resources they put in to border control.

[tzijlstra]

According to some of our immigrant population we are all lazy and useless.

Interesting interpretation.

 

And I said that would rather depend on which party is in office, their immigration policy and how many resources they put in to border control.

 

Explain to me which party is going to lower immigration and how they are going to do that? Could you also explain what the ramifications are going to be of their choices beyond immigration?

 

One-issue parties rarely manage to do so, it would be interesting to see if you can.

[anfisa]

And where would you suggest the money comes from to do that?

 

The employer, you are constantly complaining about how much profit they make, so instead of making huge profits on the back of immigration they can divert some of it to train their future British employees.