Drug prohibition costs lives

[Bonzo77]

Hows that? I first had a drink at 14 or before,had years and years of drinking socially and many years later in perfect health!

 

Some do spout some crap.

Maybe less tinfoil sucking is needed before posting ay?

 

I think the booze has gone to your head pal! You need to lay off for a bit! Alco!

 

I know some very rich people who have used cocaine for decades. Sociable use of course

[Halibut]

Hows that? I first had a drink at 14 or before,had years and years of drinking socially and many years later in perfect health!

 

Some do spout some crap.

Maybe less tinfoil sucking is needed before posting ay?

 

Try thinking it through a bit further. You as a drinker, feel aggrieved at the idea that your favourite drug might be criminalised.

But think about the huge number of people who die of alcohol related illness, the huge number of peoplw who end up in A and E having injured themse;ves while drunk; ponder on the fact that alcohol is a factor in a high proportion of violent crime and domestic violence. Then ask yourself how many people end up in A and E for cannabis related reasons? How many dope smokers are beating up their spouses or partners?

 

Is it right that you should be tarred with the same brush as the wife beating alcoholic?

Is is right that the dope smoker with a good job who's never hurt a fly be tarred with the same brush as the granny robbing junky who's never had a job in his life?

 

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I am not the one posting off topic abusive comments about other member.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

 

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

 

Your posts fall within this description far better than my posts which are on topic and non abusive. Your posts are generally abusive personal attacks on other members and mostly off topic and are very disrupting to normal on-topic discussion, mostly because people like me bite instead of ignoring you.

 

I didn't read a word of that.

[gimp27]

Try thinking it through a bit further. You as a drinker, feel aggrieved at the idea that your favourite drug might be criminalised.

But think about the huge number of people who die of alcohol related illness, the huge number of peoplw who end up in A and E having injured themse;ves while drunk; ponder on the fact that alcohol is a factor in a high proportion of violent crime and domestic violence. Then ask yourself how many people end up in A and E for cannabis related reasons? How many dope smokers are beating up their spouses or partners?

 

Is it right that you should be tarred with the same brush as the wife beating alcoholic?

Is is right that the dope smoker with a good job who's never hurt a fly be tarred with the same brush as the granny robbing junky who's never had a job in his life?

 

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I didn't read a word of that.

 

It may also be true that alcohol severely diminishes a persons ability to spell the words "People" and "Themselves". This could be a simple typo, or could be an indication of the "Dark Tetrad" narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy and a sadistic personality, as reported by psychologists from the University of Manitoba, University of Winnipeg and University of British Columbia in an article published in the Personality and Individual Differences’ journal.

[Xt500]

Try thinking it through a bit further. You as a drinker, feel aggrieved at the idea that your favourite drug might be criminalised.

But think about the huge number of people who die of alcohol related illness, the huge number of peoplw who end up in A and E having injured themse;ves while drunk; ponder on the fact that alcohol is a factor in a high proportion of violent crime and domestic violence. Then ask yourself how many people end up in A and E for cannabis related reasons? How many dope smokers are beating up their spouses or partners?

 

Is it right that you should be tarred with the same brush as the wife beating alcoholic?

Is is right that the dope smoker with a good job who's never hurt a fly be tarred with the same brush as the granny robbing junky who's never had a job in his life?

 

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I didn't read a word of that.

 

what are you on about?

 

"Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use cannabis regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all."

http://ncpic.org.au/professionals/publications/factsheets/cannabis-and-aggression/

 

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“People may think of hashish and marijuana as tranquillizers, but according to some studies, cannabis users may be more likely to act violently”, says Ingeborg Rossow.

 

She is a researcher at the Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research (SIRUS).

 

Together with fellow researcher Thor Norström, Rossow has conducted a long-term study of Norwegian adolescents and found that cannabis users report violence more frequently than other youngsters.

http://sciencenordic.com/association-between-cannabis-use-and-violence

[Halibut]

what are you on about?

 

"Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use cannabis regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all."

http://ncpic.org.au/professionals/publications/factsheets/cannabis-and-aggression/

 

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“People may think of hashish and marijuana as tranquillizers, but according to some studies, cannabis users may be more likely to act violently”, says Ingeborg Rossow.

 

She is a researcher at the Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research (SIRUS).

 

Together with fellow researcher Thor Norström, Rossow has conducted a long-term study of Norwegian adolescents and found that cannabis users report violence more frequently than other youngsters.

http://sciencenordic.com/association-between-cannabis-use-and-violence

 

Is that really your best effort?

[psynuk]

You are an incredibility abusive and obnoxious individual.

 

to be fair you asked for that one, If your going to pontificate on subject at least do it convincingly.

 

Prescribe heroin for free on the nhs and it's use declines as people enter rehab and dealers will abandon the area that's prescribing the drug thus reducing uptake.

Local crime committed by heroin addicts plummets as there is no cost to the addict,

The cost to the taxpayer plummets in unison as heroin is a very cheap drug to buy for the nhs, the dangers of street heroin and their associated medical costs practically disappear, the cost of policing, court costs, cost to business also decline.

 

These are just facts that are borne out every time an area proscribes heroin.

[Bonzo77]

what are you on about?

 

"Studies show that violence can occur more often among people who use cannabis regularly, rather than those who use it occasionally or not at all."

http://ncpic.org.au/professionals/publications/factsheets/cannabis-and-aggression/

 

---------- Post added 07-01-2015 at 20:19 ----------

 

“People may think of hashish and marijuana as tranquillizers, but according to some studies, cannabis users may be more likely to act violently”, says Ingeborg Rossow.

 

She is a researcher at the Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research (SIRUS).

 

Together with fellow researcher Thor Norström, Rossow has conducted a long-term study of Norwegian adolescents and found that cannabis users report violence more frequently than other youngsters.

http://sciencenordic.com/association-between-cannabis-use-and-violence

 

Haha! You're joking, right?!

 

I've seen some flimsy websites used as "evidence" on here in the past, but these 2 take the biscuit!

 

"Thirdly, disputes over money in situations where cannabis is bought and sold can also provoke violence."

 

You'd be better off comparing that study with one on how women are more likely to get violent if you hide their chocolate!

 

No one wants to go out and start a fight when they're stoned!

[anfisa]

to be fair you asked for that one, If your going to pontificate on subject at least do it convincingly.

 

Prescribe heroin for free on the nhs and it's use declines as people enter rehab and dealers will abandon the area that's prescribing the drug thus reducing uptake.

Local crime committed by heroin addicts plummets as there is no cost to the addict,

The cost to the taxpayer plummets in unison as heroin is a very cheap drug to buy for the nhs, the dangers of street heroin and their associated medical costs practically disappear, the cost of policing, court costs, cost to business also decline.

 

These are just facts that are borne out every time an area proscribes heroin.

 

So it is rehab that causes it to decline and not the fact it is free, and rehab can easily be made available to addicts without giving away free drugs.

[Xt500]

Haha! You're joking, right?!

 

I've seen some flimsy websites used as "evidence" on here in the past, but these 2 take the biscuit!

 

"Thirdly, disputes over money in situations where cannabis is bought and sold can also provoke violence."

 

You'd be better off comparing that study with one on how women are more likely to get violent if you hide their chocolate!

 

No one wants to go out and start a fight when they're stoned!

 

being stoned is obviously affecting your ability to read.

[melthebell]

So it is rehab that causes it to decline and not the fact it is free, and rehab can easily be made available to addicts without giving away free drugs.

you missed out the second part of his sentence about dealers leaving the area, it takes dealers and thus crime out of the equation