trav4 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Do you have any reasonable reply to the points I am making? ---------- Post added 07-01-2015 at 11:09 ---------- I will have when you make any reasonable points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No User Name Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I will have when you make any reasonable points. Of which I have made plenty, a classic case of "replying to the poster and not the post" occuring here. Are you not going to lambast ECCOnoob for saying the same as me then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav4 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Of which I have made plenty, a classic case of "replying to the poster and not the post" occuring here. Are you not going to lambast ECCOnoob for saying the same as me then? No. I'll just agree with all the people who don't. You show a lack of compassion for the sake of argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 "Do you have any friends?. Real ones I mean not those on the other end of a computer." :D Sorry, your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No User Name Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Sorry, your point is? I was quoting Trav4 (see post #26) who seems to be chasing me but not you, despite us having exactly the same opinion ---------- Post added 07-01-2015 at 11:18 ---------- No. I'll just agree with all the people who don't. You show a lack of compassion for the sake of argument. All my compassion for the pensioners went out of the window on travel matters when they chose to repeatedly break the law in order for them to try and get their way. They are in for an even bigger shock this time next year when their half price train travel will be for the chop, along with all the estate buses that are loaded all day with non-fare paying customers. Edited January 7, 2015 by No User Name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I was quoting Trav4 (see post #26) who seems to be chasing me but not you, despite us having exactly the same opinion Maybe you would be so kind as to answer my question at post #28 then so that I don't have to keep chasing you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No User Name Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I don't think you've grasped the sensitivity here. Someone who has spent all their life doing something in a certain way is suddenly being forced to change their lifetime habits. It's no so easy for some people. It's like saying to our 20 year old knitting example, your mobile phone is going to be taken away from you and replaced by phone boxes on the street. I wonder what you think their reaction might be? They wouldnt like it but you have to grin and bare it. Not the fault of organisations if the minority dont embrace change. Point blank refusing to even attempt to learn (like the lady in the OP's example) is plain daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav4 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Sorry, your point is? Do you also think all pensioners should be computer literate and there is no excuse for some of them not being?. No userename says you do. Edited January 7, 2015 by trav4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby71 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 You don't need to afford a computer. You just need access to one. Access to computers in this society is FREE for everyone. She is creating the barriers here and more fool her. If she is so reluctant to check online she needs to pick up the phone or toddle off to a bus stop and LOOK at the free timetable stuck on the stop. The woman is a moron. All this reluctant to change, forced to learn is horse crap. For the majority of these pensioners computers have been around in the domestic and personal levels for 40+ years now. Many pensioners own one or have had some basic skill of using one. Come 5-10 years time every pensioner will at some point had some use of a computer. Paper timetables should well be cut out. My mum in her 70s and spent the final 20 years of her working life using computers. She owns a laptop and tablet, and despite only knowing the basics she is more than capable of looking up some bus times. Telephones have been in the public reach for over 70+ years so if you are really that much of a luddite you are still capable of picking up the phone and asking when the next bus is. What is wrong with these people. Have they been living in a cave? If you can manage to pick up and read through a paper timetable book, you are more than capable of making a phone call. What a patronising, condescending, horrible person you appear to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordfish1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Anyone seen the First Bus app on the iPhone (maybe on other systems too)? I hardly ever catch a bus, but every time I have I've used this to tell me the timetables and it's been spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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