Is it time BMW cars were banned from the roads during snow?

[tinfoilhat]

That or taking children to school.

 

Did you think that the roads were flooded with cars every morning because it's a popular time to just go for a drive?

 

If you do it often enough, yes.

 

And really it would only make sense if you thought the chance of damage to your car was 100%.

The vast majority of people who drove anywhere this morning didn't crash.

 

Of course not, it's rush hour I'm not a complete plank. I'm surprised schools were open though.

[monkey104]

For the sake of balance, will the three absolute planks, a discovery, a Suzuki and another 4 WD type vehicle going so fast down the hill I couldn't work out what type it was,, covering everyone in slush, yes you, slow down.

You are a traffic accident waiting to happen.

[carosio]

My RWD Hillman imp is great in the snow thanks!

 

That's because the engine's above the rear wheels, like the VW beetle!

[Eater Sundae]

I think a good case could be made for making four seasons (as a minimum) a legal requirement in the winter months in the UK.

 

jb

 

I've got 4 season tyres (as I've already bored people senseless on the various winter tyres threads). As I understand it, the rubber is not quite as low temperature appropriate as is the case for full blown winter tyres, but they still have the snowflake on mountain and MS symbols, and meet the "winter tyres" requirements of those countries which require winter tyres. Also, the Goodyear Vector 4 season tyres I have beat some of the lesser premium name full winter tyres in winter conditions, in the tests I've read.

 

The 4 season tyres are nearly the same as winter tyres - both are very different from summer tyres.

[Obelix]

I live on a dual carriageway on a slight incline.

Every time there is a drop of snow traffic is held up by BMWs sliding from side to side.

There has been an awful tailback caused by these vehicles, yet once they are out of the way most traffic seems to flow straight through.

Even coming down the incline one BMW suv had his front wheel locked at full lock sliding forward. Only when it hit the kerb did it gain some control.

 

I shall return to my foxhole and await incoming.

 

Oh look, someone with a bit of reverse snobbery on car brands is it...of course..it's snowing...

 

I got stuck a few times today because someone stopped and couldnt get going. There was an Audi, (quattro no less) a Vauxhall and a Ford. My BMW didn;t get stuck, generally doesn't have any problems. They don't have problems with them in Germany either, but then again RWD is always easier to drive in snow than FWD.

 

Oddly though, I don't want to ban the other cars. I just get a towrope out and give them a hand.

[monkey104]

Calm down flower!

Only saying what I see and speaking from experience. I think some BMWs are a beautiful and the engineering second to none, however they are ****e in the snow.

 

There were no BMWs having trouble in the snow today. In fact I have seen them towing other cars uphill.

That ok for you!

 

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Oh look, someone with a bit of reverse snobbery on car brands is it...of course..it's snowing...

 

I got stuck a few times today because someone stopped and couldnt get going. There was an Audi, (quattro no less) a Vauxhall and a Ford. My BMW didn;t get stuck, generally doesn't have any problems. They don't have problems with them in Germany either, but then again RWD is always easier to drive in snow than FWD.

 

Oddly though, I don't want to ban the other cars. I just get a towrope out and give them a hand.

 

Really! I lived in Germany for 9 yrs and saw regular problems in the snow and ice.

[roosterboost]

Oh look, someone with a bit of reverse snobbery on car brands is it...of course..it's snowing...

 

I got stuck a few times today because someone stopped and couldnt get going. There was an Audi, (quattro no less) a Vauxhall and a Ford. My BMW didn;t get stuck, generally doesn't have any problems. They don't have problems with them in Germany either, but then again RWD is always easier to drive in snow than FWD.

 

Oddly though, I don't want to ban the other cars. I just get a towrope out and give them a hand.

 

Just how many International Rallies did Ford Escorts win?

[Cyclone]

The reason I think that FWD is easier to drive in the snow is that understeer is easier to correct than oversteer (when caused by excess power), most drivers have at some point experienced understeer, it's less likely that they've experienced power driven oversteer.

They may well not crash due to it, but they are likely to come to a dead halt, this is less likely with understeer. And setting off from a halt is harder than keeping moving.

 

In purely theoretical terms, having separate driven and steering wheels should be a benefit.

[Obelix]

Just how many International Rallies did Ford Escorts win?

 

Since they were not driven with the average road car it's rather irrelevant.

[GerryBooth]

If you can afford it get some winter tyres. Never had a hill beat me yet and hardly any wheel slip to speak off.

 

I am fortunate for me and my wifes car to have a spare set of wheels with winter tyres on so a simple job of swapping them over late November and early March. We tend to keep our cars from new till death which helps.