truman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Have you got a caravan @ Skeggy then No, but after this thread I'm thinking about it ---------- Post added 06-02-2015 at 14:14 ---------- But they didnt waste it, the spent it "enjoying themselves" and helped the economy grow, the same as others who rent. . According to poppet2 a mortgage is cheaper than renting so, using your logic, those with a mortgage would have helped the economy grow even more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Tell you what convert..I'm going to have some great holidays when I retire, sell my house and cash in my pension..the council can look after me when I get back Yes, you do that, then see what happens. Do you think the government isn't wise to the likes of this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2466361/Councils-spy-parents-sign-house-children-Blitz-families-avoid-care-home-fees.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Yes, you do that, then see what happens. Do you think the government isn't wise to the likes of this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2466361/Councils-spy-parents-sign-house-children-Blitz-families-avoid-care-home-fees.html If I sell up and spend it all (not give it to my kids) what will the council do...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Surely those paying mortgages are also helping the economy to grow? Initially yes by helping construction companies but most of the mortgage money goes to banks and shareholders via the interest on the loan. Dont forget that a lot of new mortgages are using the Help to Buy scheme which is being subsidised by the tax payer to the tune of £billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Read my post #9..I mean the people who had money but rented a council house and spent the rest on holidays and beer..they had the cash but chose to "waste" it..why should they get their care paid for but those that decided to buy a house not? ---------- Post added 06-02-2015 at 13:20 ---------- See my post #9...the same thing.. So, free social care for everyone? Considering we are well on course for a alzheimers time bomb and an ever expanding elderly population, get ready for some very very very big tax rises. Or those that can should help themselves. Frankly anyone who chooses to throw themselves at the state for help when they dont need to is a nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 So, free social care for everyone? Considering we are well on course for a alzheimers time bomb and an ever expanding elderly population, get ready for some very very very big tax rises. Or those that can should help themselves. Frankly anyone who chooses to throw themselves at the state for help when they dont need to is a nut. With post #9 I was trying to show the inequality of the system..those that are prudent are punished,those that spend it all are rewarded.. there ought to be some middle way.. ---------- Post added 06-02-2015 at 14:31 ---------- Initially yes by helping construction companies but most of the mortgage money goes to banks and shareholders via the interest on the loan. Dont forget that a lot of new mortgages are using the Help to Buy scheme which is being subsidised by the tax payer to the tune of £billions. So people with a mortgage don't buy anything or use services (decorators/plumbers etc) once the house is built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 With post #9 I was trying to show the inequality of the system..those that are prudent are punished,those that spend it all are rewarded.. there ought to be some middle way. Are you saying in hindsight, you wish you never bought your property, because of the care home situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Are you saying in hindsight, you wish you never bought your property, because of the care home situation? Where do you get that from? Are you saying that people who have earned lots of money throughout their life and had the opportunity to save but didn't should get state help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 It seems Poppet has no grasp of what it is like to save, accrue and pass something onto your kids. Essentially, the government is funding lavish spending by the couldn't-care-lesser in their early years by paying it back many years later through aged care. For those being prudent early on, the government funds them nothing - no lavish lifestyle enjoyed, no care provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Initially yes by helping construction companies but most of the mortgage money goes to banks and shareholders via the interest on the loan. Dont forget that a lot of new mortgages are using the Help to Buy scheme which is being subsidised by the tax payer to the tune of £billions. Would you consider housing benefit to be a subsidy? Also funded by the tax payer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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