Penistone999 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes it was much better in the good old days with all that warm and friendly racism, domestic violence, class distinction, homophobia, etc. I really miss having a 4 year old child to stuff up the chimney when it needs cleaning. Political correctness does have some miss-guided interpretations but that is the sharp end of a whole raft of measures that have allowed people fair opportunities and to be judged on their abilities, not just how they appear. As the Royal British Legion has often pointed out, we'd all be speaking German if it wasn't for the millions of non-white soldiers from the British Empire who fought alongside us in both world wars. But I suppose you would have wanted to check they could speak English before you'd let them fight for us. There was even Indian and Guarkha regiments base in Sheffield for a period in WWII. Lucky they didn't learn about some of the yellow bellies on here they were fighting for. I think you have been reading too many copies of that Leftie, socialist Socialist worker . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyno Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) There's no evidence whatsoever that there are lots of people "making no effort" to learn English. The census found fewer than 1500 people who spoke no English, and for all we know they may have been recent arrivals who were just starting lessons. The 2013-14 language usage report is here: Evidence???? I'm talking about years n years of experience visiting and dealing with thousands of people over 40 years.As regards for Census have you never heard the phrase the pen is mightier than the sword Who do you really think fills the forms in for these people??? They go to family,friends or places that will fill forms in for them. I think evidence is a good thing when we're making prejudicial comments about people "making no effort" to learn. To the census we can add the evidence of 2013/14 expenditure, which again does not suggest a massive problem with people who have "made no effort" to learn English, given the small numbers involved. Dan Edited February 24, 2015 by esme quote tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDelBoy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheff1johnny Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 In my opinion, translation should be done, but not automatically. And only the documentation should be translated. Translators should not be paid for, when other vital services are being cut. If I go on holiday I learn. Enough of the countries language to get by. This is probably more than the typical Englishman abroad. When I was in France, my French was terrible, but they appreciated me trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Imagine a Slovak speaker, whose English is weak, gets assaulted. When interviewed by Police, the police would find it useful to have an interpreter present to make sure they understand the evidence the Slovak speaker is giving. SCC doesn't pay for that. The Police have to pay for their own interpreters, which is a legal requirement. As has been pointed out in this thread earlier, only the Police have a legal requirement to provide interpreters. £209k on interpreters in 2014 http://www.southyorks.police.uk/foi/disclosurelog/interpreter-spend-financial-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) I think evidence is a good thing when we're making prejudicial comments about people "making no effort" to learn. To the census we can add the evidence of 2013/14 expenditure, which again does not suggest a massive problem with people who have "made no effort" to learn English, given the small numbers involved. Dan At the end of the day I wouldn't have a problem with spending all this money if people like YOU was to pay for it and not put the burden on the rest of us who have to suffer cut backs in other essential services which affects people who have contributed to the system over the years....End of. Edited February 24, 2015 by esme quote tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) At the end of the day I wouldn't have a problem with spending all this money if people like YOU was to pay for it and not put the burden on the rest of us who have to suffer cut backs in other essential services which affects people who have contributed to the system over the years....End of. Ok. I'll go with that. I've had to use the services of the police once in my life. I have no kids. I have private healthcare though my work so rarely use NHS hospital services apart from my GP who I have seen once in the last 5 years. I drive and pay 'road tax'. 2 of us live in our house and pay full council tax. So based on your logic can I get a refund of the entire money paid to the fire brigade, most of what is paid to the police, all money set aside for schools and children's services, most of the hospital budget. I'll grudgingly pay for pensions I suppose as I do have parents. Who do I write to for my refund? Edited February 24, 2015 by esme Quote tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Ok. I'll go with that. I've had to use the services of the police once in my life. I have no kids. I have private healthcare though my work so rarely use NHS hospital services apart from my GP who I have seen once in the last 5 years. I drive and pay 'road tax'. 2 of us live in our house and pay full council tax. So based on your logic can I get a refund of the entire money paid to the fire brigade, most of what is paid to the police, all money set aside for schools and children's services, most of the hospital budget. I'll grudgingly pay for pensions I suppose as I do have parents. Who do I write to for my refund? These are called Emergency services and as a result are their for Emergencies!! Also and they carry essential services etc until called upon.They have all had to cut thousands off their budgets just like the rest of us. Edited February 24, 2015 by esme quote tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHRemovals Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 IN Paris all local authority documents go out in one language. French Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 IN Paris all local authority documents go out in one language. French The French are very insecure about their language against their perceived threat of Anglicisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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