Bonzo77 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The op is total garbage. ---------- Post added 23-02-2015 at 07:31 ---------- You can't blame people for using the benefit system to their advantage. You can blame a system which allows this to happen. I like to think that my tax money pays for all the people I see every day hanging around on the street - you know the ones who have travelled half way across the world to claim on our benefits system and the ones that fill up the waiting area of the children's hospital. What do I do? Anything and everything. Bit of this. Bit of that. But mostly I'm a porn star. It truly warms my heart Ron, because deep down I know it makes you angry to see foreigners claiming every penny that they can! I love it! ---------- Post added 23-02-2015 at 07:37 ---------- But mostly I'm a porn star. Yeah, right. You need balls to be a porn star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 You mean 20 million on the breadline according to some metric dreamt up by the same people to sell a shocking book and make themselves a tidy profit? That is indeed the statement I mean, and just like Obelix I am extremely sceptical about the figures in the claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 That's great news RonJeremy!, and much to be welcomed! Now, maybe it's time to remind ourselves of the title of poppet2's thread - 20 million on the breadline in Britain - and give some serious consideration to the question of how we, as a society, might address this shocking inequality that is causing so much hardship and distress? Commentators say that the general public are not 'feeling' the trickle down effect' of our supposedly marvellously improving economy. I would say that's because any improvement has been hugely exagerated, figures spun and statistics used very creatively. Any improvement at all is nothing to do with the government IMO, and everything to do with the falling oil price, rising house prices and the presence of Russian oligarchs residing in London. Similarly I would imagine the figure for those on the breadline is probably less than 20 million, but nevertheles, still rising. The gap between rich and poor is certainly on the increase, and homelessness is becoming a far too common threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, right. You need balls to be a porn star Dammit! You beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yeah, right. You need balls to be a porn star Dammit! You beat me to it Are you both sure about that... I have studied Sasha Grey, in fact, really had a very close look and I'm fairly confident, nay positive, she doesn't have any balls. ---------- Post added 23-02-2015 at 10:35 ---------- It truly warms my heart Ron, because deep down I know it makes you angry to see foreigners claiming every penny that they can! I love it! You have a strange set of priorities that you are happy to see all and sundry from around the world come to claim your taxes (if you do indeed pay any). It will impoverish your old age and puts strain on the NHS and schools. But if you're happy about it, good on you, you can't be bitter about everything ---------- Post added 23-02-2015 at 10:36 ---------- Commentators say that the general public are not 'feeling' the trickle down effect' of our supposedly marvellously improving economy. I would say that's because any improvement has been hugely exagerated, figures spun and statistics used very creatively. Any improvement at all is nothing to do with the government IMO, and everything to do with the falling oil price, rising house prices and the presence of Russian oligarchs residing in London. Similarly I would imagine the figure for those on the breadline is probably less than 20 million, but nevertheles, still rising. The gap between rich and poor is certainly on the increase, and homelessness is becoming a far too common threat. The claim is as laughable as it is idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 You have a strange set of priorities that you are happy to see all and sundry from around the world come to claim your taxes (if you do indeed pay any). It will impoverish your old age and puts strain on the NHS and schools. But if you're happy about it, good on you, you can't be bitter about everything. I'm much happier seeing poor people coming to the UK and claiming benefits than I am seeing rich people dodge tax and drain the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I have just finished reading 'Nickel and Dimed' by Brabara Ehrenreich which is an eye opening book about life at the bottom of the corporate structure for low paid workers In America. Polly Toynbee's book 'Hard Work', is a similar hardhitting and compelling investgation to life at the bottom for Britain's low paid workers. And it occured to me after reading them that both were published in 2001 and 2003 respectively, when in both Britain's and America's economies were bouyant. And if the low paid workers were pauperised, put upon, and knackered then, just imagine how they feel now. These aren't dry 'academic' texts endlessly debating definitions of poverty, but are real accounts of real people. I thoroughly recommed them to people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm much happier seeing poor people coming to the UK and claiming benefits than I am seeing rich people dodge tax and drain the economy. Then you couldn't be more wrong. You think that the wealthy are a drain on the economy and that the people on benefits are a contributor? Are you just winding people up on here giving a totally upside down view of how things are for a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Then you couldn't be more wrong. You think that the wealthy are a drain on the economy and that the people on benefits are a contributor? Are you just winding people up on here giving a totally upside down view of how things are for a reason? Wealthy business owners who don't pay their staff a living wage are a drain. So are the millionaires who avoid paying tax. People on benefits, such as people who deliberately have children to avoid work are only playing the system in the same way. Both are legal, both are wrong. Tax avoidance Costa us more than benefits cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Wealthy business owners who don't pay their staff a living wage are a drain. So are the millionaires who avoid paying tax. People on benefits, such as people who deliberately have children to avoid work are only playing the system in the same way. Both are legal, both are wrong. Tax avoidance Costa us more than benefits cheats. Your muddling of the lines is brilliant trying to get an erroneous point across. If others believed it it would be a problem. But I'm sure they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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