Mister M Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yes but same rules benefit the feckless. People who have just left jobs cannot claim immediately. People who haven't worked for years can. People who have savings over a certain amount either can't claim or cannot claim as much, whereas people who are reckless with money and do not save can claim for everything. It's not fair and it needs to change. Given the background information provided on here, what would be your solutions HH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yes but same rules benefit the feckless. People who have just left jobs cannot claim immediately. People who haven't worked for years can. People who have savings over a certain amount either can't claim or cannot claim as much, whereas people who are reckless with money and do not save can claim for everything. It's not fair and it needs to change. Yes it does, the benefits system is one unholy mess. Get the idea out your head that it's non-working claimants who suck the life out the system. The truth is that working people and pensioners swallow most of the welfare budget. After being brainwashed for years into picking on the wrong people you need to get wiser about what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lower taxes instead of taxing people and giving some of it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Lower taxes instead of taxing people and giving some of it back. But many people earning the current adult minimum wage if they weren't taxed would take home £13,520. I can't be sure, but I'm sure there are people earning more than now that who qualify for tax credits and housing benefit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 But those people earning more will be paying tax. Just don't tax them. Simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Cameron said he wants employers to pay people more, now that he is taking tax credits away. So he is shifting the blame of poverty onto employers - fine, but just HOW does he propose to make employers pay their employees more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 But those people earning more will be paying tax. Just don't tax them. Simple really. I'd tax everybody. Introduce a citizen's income. Abolish NI. Every pound earned above citizens income gets taxed at say a flat rate of 35p in the pound which everybody pays on every pound they earn, no matter how much they earn. You'd have no benefits system and a really simple PAYE system too. That would shrink the state. People would know they get to keep 65p of every pound earned so work would be incentivised, high earners could never complain about being over-taxed and would be incentivised to pay their tax. Like in other countries everybodies tax returns would be a matter of public record. I know you'll hate it......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Cameron said he wants employers to pay people more, now that he is taking tax credits away. So he is shifting the blame of poverty onto employers - fine, but just HOW does he propose to make employers pay their employees more? If there is a consensus that tax credits to top the wages up of the lowest paid employees is a bad thing then there needs to be a conversation about the rate of a 'living wage', on who the responsibility should fall. I think that there is a difference between a struggling small business paying a living wage, and the huge multi national paying the living wage. Companies like Tescos should pay the living wage, they can afford it & the responsibility should not fall on the taxpayer. But what about the struggling small business? How would the Government assess which business can afford it & which can't? The Government already assess which individuals can claim tax credits - so there is a formula..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's all very well saying that Tesco should pay the living wage, but that would cause them to look at their business practices and eliminate any roles with value below this. You'd lose a lot of checkout people and get a lot more self-checkouts, and you'd likely get more automation of shelf-stacking and warehousing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code word Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 All they would do is add it to the £3.4billion foreign aid. We would not benefit anyway. Britain's foreign aid budget is growing so fast that ministers and officials are 'struggling' to spend it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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